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Table of Contents for this issue:
Re: Request for 128K Help
CD on II series
128 Qs
Dest Personal Scanner
MacPlus Internet info
Not for sale
Apple Lisa info
Re: LCIII
MacPlus Zip Update... 4X CD-ROM!!!
Upgrades to Mac IIci
Powerbook Batteries
Internal HD compatibility with LC II?
LCII & RamDoubler RAM Limits
RE: Breaking to LC II's 10 meg RAM limit
Re: LCII VRAM Increase?


 
Subject: Re: Request for 128K Help
From: Michael
Hackett

According to the sticker on the back, it was originally upgraded to 1 MB.

If this is true, that's pretty neat. I didn't know there were any upgrade paths besides the "Fat Mac" (512K) upgrade, other than do-it-yourself hacking.

1) What's the latest system version this machine can use -without upgrading it?

If it's a 128K, I think 3.2 is the last version that works.

2) Does it use only 400K disks? I've looked in some shops and they only seem to sell HD's these days; I think the 128K could use these, but I need to download shareware etc using my Mac, and it won't like HD disks formatted as 400K's - any solutions?

Again, assuming it hasn't been modified, then the internal drive can only read 400K =MFS= (not HFS) disks, and an external drive (which can be an 800K or 1440K drive) will only boot with same.

After booting, however, with the HD20 extension, you can apparently use 800K disks in an external drive (though still not high-density disks). Do not use HD floppies in a double-density drive -- they will not work reliably.

3) Can anyone recommend sites which specialise in software to run on these machines - or sites that let you easily search for them?

If you find any, let me know. I just came upon a 128K Mac myself but have absolutely nothing to run on it.

Is it possible to safely pull these machines apart (they are sealed by special screws)?

Yep, you just need a Torx-15 with a long handle. It's the same as an SE (two screws at the bottom of the back and two under the handle), except that there's an additional screw hidden in the battery compartment.

5) Will Apple IIe mouses work with this machine?

Hmm, I'm not sure, but I think so. The IIe and IIc mice used the same DB-9 plug, though whether the pinouts are identical or not, I don't know.

Subject: CD on II series
From: George Crane

Todd Griffith asked:

Anybody have a IIcx connected to a CD-ROM? Please relay your experiences.

I have a Mac II hooked up to an Apple Power CD (a classic in itself). The Mac has 8MB RAM and an antique 40MB HD with no accelerator or other apparatus. We use it almost exclusively for the kid's CDs, e.g. Living Books series. They are slow to load, but once they're loaded, action within a scene is no different than when run on my power Mac. There is also a longer delay between 'pages'.

Otherwise, it's fine for the kids.

later,
george

Subject: 128 Qs
From: George Crane

Anthony Seng asked:

Everything seems to work - excepts disks get jammed when ejected and need a LOT of tugging to get out.

If you are tugging disks to get them out, you may have already thrashed the drive. Computers don't respond very well to brute force, at least not for long.

Get DD disks and format them as 400K disks (This only uses one side of the disk instead of both). It won't use HD disks.

4) Has anyone had similar problems with these early disk drives (I realise it's probably passed Apple's original working life expectancy). Is it possible to safely pull these machines apart (they are sealed by special screws)?

The computer has probably sat around for years and all the grease on the disk has hardened. I just open up such beasts, clean them and re-lube them. Works fine. The case is secured by torx screws, you need a looonnnng T-15 bit.

later,
george

Subject: Dest Personal Scanner
From: David

I recently received a DEST Personal Scan scanner (model #B5N-21SCA) with a Personal Scan Feeder (model #B5N-21FED) with no software. The unit has plugs for an Apple serial-type connection with the Mac icon next to it. I could not find any resources on the net for DEST software or drivers. If anyone has any info I would appreciate it greatly.

Thanks.
Dave

Subject: MacPlus Internet info
From: JorPro

I just got a great little MacPlus for $20. Is it possible to set it up for internet use? Also, what suggestions can you make on upgrading it to it's fullest potential (i.e. RAM,Hard Drive,) & where's the best place to shop for these ?

For info on setting up your MacPlus on the internet, try this web site:

http://members.aol.com/trickys/connect.html

Jory Probber a.k.a. jorpro

Subject: Not for sale
From: Robert Poland

I have two Mac 128 Keyboards and a 2400 Baud AppleFax Modem (doesn't seem to work) that I would like to get rid of. I will not pay shipping.

Anyone interested,

Bob Poland
Boulder, CO

Subject: Apple Lisa info
From: John Massaglia

If there's anyone out there that can help me get the Lisa or the Apple III going, or who has parts for the Apple II or Mac systems, please contact me at: 55577f96@.

I remember that a company called Sun Remarketing used to make a version of the Macintosh OS for the Lisa. They also sell parts such as scsi cards and other stuff.

You can reach them at: sales@sunrem.com

(800) 821-3221
http://www.sunrem.com

Also, for other Lisa info (including more stuff about Sun) check out:

http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~ssteplet/lisa.html

Good luck!

Subject: Re: LCIII
From: Marconi

Fred Bonnett wrote:

When ever I startup I get a chime and a sadMAc w/ 0000FFF 000007F I've run Disk Firstaid which says all is well but only when I startup with disk firstaid in the drive.

Whenever I try to startup with an empty drive, w/ or without the shift key held, I get this sad MAC.

The "F" at the end of the first line indicates a software problem. System or Finder may be bad

Subject: MacPlus Zip Update... 4X CD-ROM!!!
From: Joseph L. Puente

Well, I tried it once before and it didn't work, so I assumed it couldn't. Then I moved my Plus next to my Duo so I wouldn't have to keep unplugging the Zip (I use it on both computers). I went ahead and daisy-chained the CD-ROM Drive onto the Zip and didn't think to remove it the last time I hooked it up to my MacPlus. So, for kicks, I loaded the driver for the CD-ROM onto the Plus' Zip disk (again) and was pleasantly surprised to see the icon pop onto the bottom of the screen without a question mark over it.

As soon as the Plus was running, I placed a cd onto the tray a loaded it in. (Drum roll, please) And the CD icon popped onto the desk top! my 8-year-old mac is using a 4X CD-ROM! is that cool or what?!?

Here's how everything is set up:

I loaded system 7.1 for a Macintosh Plus onto a Zip Disk. the SCSI id on the ZipDrive is set to 6... the SCSI Termination switch is set to ON position...yes, ON! the SCSI id on the CD-ROM Drive is set to 5...

Don't forget the SCSI Terminator on the CD-ROM Drive!

The CD-ROM drive is a Pioneer DR-US124X.

-Joe

Subject: Upgrades to Mac IIci
From: Richard Pierce

I would like to upgrade a Mac IIci with a video capture board and an audio system.

Some time back I had a 364 card(Radius or RasterOps?) thats the kind of simple video function I would like. Not sure what is available, new or used, or where I could find them.

In the audio part, voice recognition would be great if reasonable price.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

What and where to buy?

Thanks
Later Dick

Subject: Powerbook Batteries
From: CMBUELL

I have a 180C. Has anyone changed the internal battery in a 180?.

If so, can you give me directions?

Also, can you use Netscape through AOL's access to the Net? How?

Thanks,
Clif

Subject: Internal HD compatibility with LC II?
From: Ian K. Erickson

I'm considering buying a Seagate ST31200N 1.0 Gig internal hard drive to replace to 80 meg standard issuer HD in my LC II. The Manual for it says "for use with SE, SE/30, II, IIx, IIfx, IIcx, IIci or Quardra 700." Does this mean it would *also* work with an LC II, or

* Is the internal HD connector different in an LC II from the above?

* Is the LC II power supply too weak or weaker than these models?

Subject: LCII & RamDoubler RAM Limits
From: EarSaver

Mark Crummett posted:

Is anyone aware of a software "work-around" to this 10MB limit which would give her an additional 2MB free?

Only two software workarounds I'm aware of: System 7's Virtual Memory and the more effective RamDoubler from Connectix.

RAM Doubler won't work on the LCII. RD needs at least an '030 processor. The LCII has an '020.

Sorry Mark, but you are absolutely incorrect regarding this issue.

The original LC has a 68020. The LC II has a 16 MHz 68030. not only can it run RamDoubler, it can run System 7's virtual Memory scheme right out of the box. Both it and the original LC can be upgraded to faster 68030s as well, thereby accessing up to 26 megs of real RAM - and run RamDoubler too. BTW, I have purchased both machines and upgraded each with Micromac accellerators.

Sincerely,
Joe Benevides

Subject: RE: Breaking to LC II's 10 meg RAM limit
From: Jones, Paul B

Is anyone aware of a software "work-around" to this 10MB limit which would give her an additional 2MB free?

Only two software workarounds I'm aware of: System 7's Virtual Memory and the more effective RamDoubler from Connectix.

RAM Doubler won't work on the LCII. RD needs at least an '030 processor. The LCII has an '020.

The LC has an '020 an LCII has an '030!

RamDoubler will get you past the 10 meg limit, but you will only be using 10 megs of physical RAM, the hardware can't access the other 2 megs of RAM.

Paul B Jones

Subject: Re: LCII VRAM Increase?
From: Jones, Paul B

The LCII will only get a max of 256 colours at 640x480, the original was only 16 colours at 640x480. If you have a 12" colour screen you can get thousands of colours at 512x384. (I should make a switch to allow 14" screens to ID themselves as 12" and take advantage of the thousands of colours for Quicktime movies). The LCIII can go to thousands of colours with a screen size of 640x400. This is a good use for all of the old 256k VRAM SIMMS!

Paul B Jones

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