Table of Contents for this issue:

My take on MacWeb 2.0.....
Micromac critique
Joystick for MacPlus
Re: Boosting Older Macs?
MacWeb 2.0
Classic monitor problem
RE: CI goes belly up
Kitchen Mac
Re: system 7 in a plus?
Re: CI goes belly up
Re: system 7 in a plus?
Re: Recipe Programs
Re: Name this Mac! & other trivia
Plus SCSI prob
E-mail on a System 6 Classic ?
RE: Name this Mac! - HD20
MacWeb v2.0

I'd like to address the recent post on here that asked about using MacWeb
2.0 (the version on the newest MacWorld CD included with the magazine) on
68K Macs and I say YES!! This version of MacWeb has a nice installer that
lets you pick your installation--either 68K or PPC (and it runs native on
Power Macs when you install the PPC version).

This is absolutely a great browser for those of us who don't give a rip
about Java or other fancy web do-dads. I use the web for information and
still pictures *only* and MacWeb is perfect for that. But you are not
limited to text viewing, you can turn on the graphics if you want--or leave
them off.

Best of all, in either 68K or PPC mode, it STILL takes up less than 3 meg
of your RAM! And no cache to worry about getting rid of or flushing. No
cookies put on your hard drive either!!

And yes, it will run on any 68K Mac, from the Plus to my 68030 PowerBook
160.

Say goodbye to RAM hungry Netscape and all its plug-ins and
counterparts...

--bj

On 1/11, William Kuhle related this experience with Micromac:

I have a DiiMO 50 MHZ board from Micromac, and it is advertised as
containing 50MHZ 68030 and 50MHZ 68882 chips. When the board arrived, it
had stickers covering the tops of both processor chips. I peeled off their
stickers, thus revealing a 40MHZ 68030 and a 33MHZ 68882. Therefore, their
advertising is false and misleading and is in violation of state (and
probably federal) statutes. The board is in fact "clock-chipped" to 50 MHZ
and their ads never mention this. Clock chipping can be problematic at
times, with random crashes and chip overheating being theoretical
possibilities. So far, Micromac has ignored my emails asking for an
explanation.

Back in Olden Times, when I first read about accelerators for the Plus
(yes, I'm another Macintosh Old-Fart) I called Micromac about one they
had advertised. The salesman I spoke with sounded and acted like a used
button peddler from the New York garment district. He refused to
give me any details from the spec sheet that was supposed to come with
the unit. I told him to go f**k himself.

Judging from Comrade Kuhle's experience with this shoddy bunch, I could
have done much worse.

Soon afterward I traded up to my LCII and the old Plus is lovingly boxed in
glorious 8Mhz retirement.

Recently someone posted a request for a joystick for a mac plus. I found
one in my drawer full of old retired computer stuff. Unfortunately I
trashed the message before I found the joystick. If you will email me I'll
see about sending it to you.

Jon Kaplan

A local Computerstore having gone broke, we managed to get - for peanuts - the
following equipment for our Primary School Project:

- Mac IIcx 8 RAM - 80 HD
- Mac LC - 6 RAM - 40 HD
- Mac LC - 6 RAM - 100 HD
- Mac IIsi - 8 RAM - 100 HD

I would be very interested in any suggestion in how to improve the performance
of these Macs,

The IIsi is the machine I know (I have two), so most of my comments apply to
that machine unless otherwise noted.

Actually, the IIsi has *9 MB* of RAM. One meg is soldered to the motherboard,
the rest are in the four SIMM slots. You can upgrade the IIsi to 17MB by
replacing the installed SIMMs with four 4MB (30-pin) SIMMs. You have to
replace all four at once, and you have to have all four SIMMs installed.

Actually, the IIsi you have will probably run most primary school apps as-is.
If you aren't running bloatware like Microsoft Word or the hack-and-slash
games, it's fine. I have several programs (KidPix Studio, Math Blaster, etc)
running on my system. No accellerators or anything, just a CD-ROM and a
250MB internal.

Assuming you have a limited budget, upgrade in the following order:

1) External CD-ROM drive
2) System 7.5.x (noticeable speed increase over 7.0.1)
3) Larger hard drive (internal or external)
4) Upgrade to 17MB RAM
5) (only if needed) accellerator card

The IIcx and LC are slightly slower systems; you'll probably need to
upgrade the CPU on those.

Also if you have tips on WHERE to find the necessary RAM, Upgrade Cards
(mail order)

Do the US mail-order companies (MacConnection, MacMall, etc.) sell into
New Zealand? If so, they have all the stuff you'll need for the systems
you mentioned. A lot of people hate MacMall, but I've ordered from them
a few times & never had any problems; they also seem to have the best
prices.

Good luck!

Larry.Kollar

I looked on the "Ultimate Media Jam" CD for MacWeb 2.O as mentioned in
Chris Adams' post. I ran the install program to see what's what.

Minimum Install for 68K Macs needs 1447K, full install requires 2294K.
Minimum memory size is 1024K, preferred memory is 2048K.

I poked around the help files and found nothing regarding its suitability
for the Plus/SE/Classic Macs.

I tried the web site listed (www.tradewave.com/MacWeb/MacWebHome.html) and
got an error message saying that page isn't there or isn't available. A
search got me
http://coyote.einet.net:80/tradewave/products/browsers.html
but I couldn't get on that site because it was too busy, "try again later."

Jerry

Hi!
This is my first time to ask a question. My classic monitor is out of order.
When turn on its power. There is nothing but B&W rectangles on it. What is
the problem with my monitor? How can I solve it?

WuWa

Subject: CI goes belly up
From: Todd Reed
To: Classic-post@hitznet.com

Hi all,

I'm working on a IIci for a friend. The monitor is diplaying the dreaded
spectre of death, and I'm hoping o get some input on diagnosis. The chimes
of death are four rising notes which I think denotes a RAM problem.. There
is also displayed the error codes 0000000F, and 00007FFF, whatever that
stands for.

So, does the ci have RAM soldered on the motherboard in additon to the four
slots? Just wondering if the system will run if I empty the slots. Any
suggestions appreciated.

Todd

Todd, the "F" as the last character of the first line of error code
indicates a software problem. Reinstall System and Finder.

If you have your Mac in the kitchen, you may ruin it, especially if you
do a lot of frying...this puts oil in the air which will get into the Mac
and gum it up, mainly the floppy drive but also reduce internal cooling.

Jerry

On 1/15/97 at 7:23 PM, hitz@hitznet.com wrote:

First time user, so please forgive if this question has been ask before.

The Mac Bible discourages installing system 7 on Macs designed to run on
system 6. I use two Mac pluses in my classroom and would like to network
them which, if I'm not mistaken, requires system 7.

Do you recommend system 7 for the Mac plus? What, if anything, would be
the down side?

Another example that bibles aren not to be taken literally.
Maybe you misconstrued the gospel.
It would be silly to run system 6 on any Mac II machine
with more than 8MB installed.

You can mount system 7 shared volumes with 6.0.8
if you do the workstation install. Works fine!
Just use the Chooser to mount them.
But you need SYS7 to share volumes on the Plus.

You can set up a Mac running SYS7 as a server if
you get hold of a program to boost the percent sharing CPU.
I think one example might be "PowerShare".

Bruce

Todd Reed wrote:

Hi all,
I'm working on a IIci for a friend. The monitor is diplaying the dreaded
spectre of death, and I'm hoping o get some input on diagnosis. The chimes
of death are four rising notes which I think denotes a RAM problem.. There
is also displayed the error codes 0000000F, and 00007FFF, whatever that
stands for.

So, does the ci have RAM soldered on the motherboard in additon to the
four slots? Just wondering if the system will run if I empty the slots. Any
suggestions appreciated.

First: the CI has 8 RAM slots in two banks.
No soldered memory.
Get yourself a copy of Guru 1.2!

Isolating a bad SIMM is a process of elimination.
(You did not mention your SIMM sizes.)
Pull the simms from bank B and restart.
Keep swapping SIMMs and restarting until you know which is bad.
Always keep bank A full.
All four SIMMs must be same size in MB.

Unfortunately, I cannot recall which is Bank A,
but you will figure it out quickly.

Bruce

- via Productivity OnLine - Cincinnati, OH

Subject: system 7 in a plus?
From: Stan Lathrop

First time user, so please forgive if this question has been ask before.

The Mac Bible discourages installing system 7 on Macs designed to run on
system 6. I use two Mac pluses in my classroom and would like to network
them which, if I'm not mistaken, requires system 7.

Do you recommend system 7 for the Mac plus? What, if anything, would be
the down side?

Also, one of the external drives for the plus died. Any good resources for
cheap drives?

I'd have to say that advice is a load of hooey (sp?). My IIsi was designed
to run on System 6 but I wouldn't consider going back to it. I've got two
Pluses both are running System 7.5. The only real limitation is memory,
there is about 2Mb free.

You don't need System 7 to network, just to use one as a file server. The
AppleShare client will run on System 6 machines (for use with either
FileSharing or AppleShare).

OK, I have an SE with a 16Mhz accelerator sitting on my kitchen counter
running Now Contact and system 7.5.3. I have been looking for a recipe
program with a database of recipes and have had no luck. I've downloaded
dozens from the net but none has worked (either the screen was too small
or the program crashed or something). Anyone know of a good one?

Thanks

There might be one or two written in Hypercard. Check out Info-Mac
archives.

If there are none I would be happy to make one for you in HC. No cost.

I have a HC stack called Digital Gourmet. Pretty good stack, lots of
recipies, and it records nutritional information as well. The copyright
on the floppy is TeleTypesetting, I got it as one of those little add-ons
to a software purchase from MacWarehouse about 2-3 years ago. If it's no
longer available drop me a line and I can pass it on. But try to find it
first! If it's still commercially available I can't pass it on.

Robert Zusman wrote:

...Imagewriter I's are beige and boxy, II's are white (or platinum) and
strangely angular....

and Charles Meyerson added:

...Definitely an Imagewriter I, not a II. (The II was gray/platinum.)....

Actually, many Imagewriter IIs are beige (as are Mac Pluses). They were
changed to platinum later in the production run. They are "strangely
angular" (though maybe "wedge-shaped" would be more descriptive)
because they have longer legs in back than in front.

Bob Joyce

I'm having trouble figuring out a SCSI problem on a stock Mac Plus with 4MB
RAM and the cleaner second version ROM chips. Using an EZ135 with only
system 6.0.8 software on it, this Plus will not boot. However, if I boot
from a floppy, it will subsequently recognize and mount the EZ drive. On a
known-to-be-good Plus the EZ boots ok. This implies a SCSI problem, but I
have never seen one that wouldn't boot but would subsequently mount the
device. Any ideas out there?

george

Hello Classics !

I have recently bought from a friend a Mac Classic 4/40 and would like to
donate it to our Primary School Project. The teachers were wondering if
they could receive E-mail with it.

Who knows about software for Email and browsing that would run on System
6 ? (I do not want to put System 7 on the Mac as it only has 4 Megs of
RAM). Does Mac Web 1.1.1 run on System 6 ?

Alos, I have a 9800 Mac modem (french brand DIAPASON, says on the box
its HAYES compatible) I could donate but have no software to run it. Does
anyone know what could do the trick and where I could get it ?

Would RAM Doubler 1.6.1 run on this oldie ?

Thanks for your help.

Gregoire

And while I'm at it, I hear that there was an external HD that could plug
into the floppy port, called HD20, or something. Is this the right name,
and any suggestions for used places I might call to see if I can get one?
Anyone want to sell one from this group?

Sun Remarketing might have an HD20.

Only one person has recalled this drive, and recommends I get a
SCSI upgrade and use a regular HD instead, so I am looking into this.

Even with a SCSI upgrade, you will not be able to boot from an external
scsi device. The 128 and 512 even when upgraded, must boot from either a
floppy or the HD20.

mark bridges

MacWeb 2.0 did indeed appear on the America Online CD-ROM that came with, my
most recent issue of MacWorld (the disc is titled 'Ultimate Media Jam', and
I believe they included MacWeb as an HTML viewer). It has a minimum
partition of 1 meg, preferred is 2 megs...The curious part is that it
seemed to run slower with text-only than did MacWeb 1.1.1E (though I freely
admit that it's just a first impression, I haven't messed with 2.0 much and
my net access has been rather slow of late). It does, however, include
support for HTML 2.0 as well as Netscape extensions for tables and
centering, and allows for inline jpeg viewing via Quicktime. The program
itself is only 680k for the 68k version, comes with documentation and
support Internet Config 1.2.

The part that confuses me, though, is that I visited TradeWave's MacWeb
home page at http://galaxy.einet.net/EINet/MacWeb/MacWebHome.html, and
they had an announcement posted that MacWeb would only be available as part
of their corporate intranet package (though they did list screenshots and
features lists for both MacWeb and winWeb there). Perhaps they've changed
their mind and didn't update their home page to reflect that, or they
worked out some deal with MacWorld and/or AOL.