Table of Contents for this issue:

Mac Accelerators for sale
Phone Cable Network
Re: Hacking Apple's HD SC Set up in 7.5.3
RE: modems on old macs
re: PHONE CABLE NETWORK
Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.6
Re: Phone Cable Network
Page Set Up Eudora V.1.5.1
Help ..Invincible Print Preview
Fwd: [macwiz] Which External CD rom?
Internal to external CD rom

I just took a look at ClubMac's online catalog and they have alot of
MicroMac, Techworks, and Daystar accelerateors listed in their blowouts
section at what looks like lower prices.

http://www.pacbus.com/ClubMACHome/

I've bought some hard drives from them and the service was excellent.

Bo

I have a Mac Plus I would like to use in my kitchen and network to a Performa
575 located in an upstairs's bedroom. I understand one can network using the
existing house telephone wiring. Can anyone tell me how to do this. What kind
of special connectors are needed and where to get them. Will this interfere
with the telephone in any way?

Well, it's not as easy as you may think.

You need to get some 'Phone Net connectors first. These are devices that
plug into the printer port (mini-8-pin DIN connectors, and usually have 2
RJ-11 phone cable jacks in a small plastice enclosure on the other end.
Most good Mac related computer stores carry these. That's the easy part.

You have to check out your home phone wiring system carefully. Most
systems have 4 wires, red, green, yellow and black. The red and green are
for the phone. Be careful with these wires, as they can contain a good
voltage. When the phone is ringing, they carry some 90 volts, and can
give you a good shock.

The black and yellow are the ones you want.

If you are fortunate to have newer phone wiring in your home, you may
have 4 twisted pairs (8 conductors.) This would be ideal.
Find out what you have first, and make sure there are no other devices
connected to the yellow and black wires, like transformers to run lights
in the phone. (The old 'Princess' phones had these.)

You will need to connect the RJ-11 phone plugs to these yellow and black
wires coming out from the phone jacks. You will also need to have a good
home ground system.

With me so far?

1. Check you phone system for cabling. If you have 4 conductors avail.,
good, it's easier.

2. Isolate the extra wires, yellow and black, or more conductors if you
have them. Four conductors are easier and better.

3. Run a ground wire from the phone box on the wall, or the ground lug
from a grounded wall outlet, if you only have the std. 4 wire phone
system. Make sure your grounds are good and continuous throughout you
house.

You now have three wires to work with. (Right? yellow, black and the
ground wire.)

This is what the 'Phone Net' system needs. 2 conductors to send and
receive, and a floating 'ground'.

4. Get an old, or buy a new phone cable, with two RJ-11 plugs on each
end. (This is the standard phone extension cable, the translucent type,
right?) Doesn't matter how long. Cut it in two.

5. Splice the cable to the yellow, black and ground. Try it this way.
When you peel back the insulation from the phone cable, youwill see,
(suprise!) red, green, yellow and black wires.

6. Connect the red wire from the phone cable you cut to the yellow wire
from the phone home wiring. You can use electrical tape. Masking tape
willwork in a pinch. There are no large voltages on these wires. Just
make a good connection. Connect the green wire from the phone cable to
the black wire from the phone wiring. Connect the black wire from the
phone cable to the ground wire. Repeat this at the other end where you
have the other computer.

7. Plug the phone jacks into the 'phone net' connectors, and plug the
'phone net' connectors into the Macs. Go to 'Sharing Setup' in the
control panels, and connect.

This concept was proven and starte by 'frst boys from Berkely, as the
story goes. They recognized that the phone system in their house had
these two extra wires, and made use of them.

If you can't find these 'phone net' connectors, or really need a better
'drawing' of how to do this, let me know. I can help you.

Good luck.

Bo,

I have not used it, as I use APS Power Tools to format all my
drives.

However, if you have a current back up (you do, don't you?),
then you can modify a COPY of Apple's HD SC and try it. If it
does not work, the worst that happens is that you have to
reformat the HD with a different tool. Time consuming, but you
don't lose much IF you have a back up.

BTW: NEVER copy the driver form one formatting tool over the
driver from a different formatting tool (updating from one version
of the same tool to another is ok). ALWAYS reformat the HD
before using a different vendor's driver. This will save a LOT
of aggrivation!

Regards,

Bob Eye

Subject: Hacking Apple's=81 HD SC Set up 7.3.5 ?
Sent: 2/7/97 3:59 AM
Received: 2/7/97 6:12 PM
From: Bo Schnick
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Has anybody used the patch at:
<http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/hdpatch.html>,
which I linked to from:
<http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html> to use Apple's
HD SC 7.3.5 on any make of SCSI hard drive? I downloaded the
patch but I'm having second thoughts about running the patched
7.3.5 hard drive formatter.

Bo

Subject: modems on old macs
From: Jag

Does anybody know the fastest modem that can be used on a
Plus, SE and SE/30?

The Plus, SE and Classic (1) should work best with a 14.4 modem with 19.2
(modem to Mac) as the fastest speed. It is easy to overun the 68000 (16 bit)
Macs fast with info. I have helped several people with 68000 Macs that had
connection problems and forcing the modem to slow to that speed seems to
always be the final fix to keep them from dropping connection or recieving
garbage. The SE/30 and the Classic 2 should be fine with a 28.8 modem the
68030 is a 32 bit cpu plus the clock is running twice as fast. I have a plus
and an SE/30 and honestly have never even tried to get my plus to work with a
28.8, helped on to many problems with that setup.

the first thing you need is carl powell III's book Network Your Mac. i bought
one and it's very helpful. in any case here it is in a nutshell. the yellow and
black wires of your existing phone system are not being used(unless you have
two phone numbers).you'll need a PhoneNet connector for each device you want to
network. i paid $10 for mine which had a terminator built into it. also you'll
need a t-connector for your wall outlet so you can still use your phone and
network at the same time. lastly you'll need telephone wire with RJ11 plugs on
either end. length is up to you. put the PhoneNet connectors on each device and
use the telephone wire to connect everything together. then all you'll have to
do is set up LocalTalk. let me know if i can be of any more help.

karl

I'm looking for some way to quiet down my SE. The squirrel cage fan that's in
it sounds like a 747 flying overhead. I was wondering if it were possible to
put in a thermostat so the fan would only run when needed. Otherwise does
anyone know the part number of a compatible (quieter) Radio Shack fan? A
friend suggested a silent peizo fan???
Thanks,
Michael

I have a Mac Plus I would like to use in my kitchen and network to a Performa
575 located in an upstairs's bedroom. I understand one can network
using the existing house telephone wiring. Can anyone tell me how to do this.

What kind of special connectors are needed and where to get them. Will this interfere
with the telephone in any way?

Thanks
bob_gilbert

This really is pretty easy, and there's a number of ways to do it.
Basically, the phone lines in your house have four wires (two sets of
twisted-pair wires). Only one of these pairs is used by your phone (unless
you have two lines in use, I don't know how to get around that). The other
pair is available for your network. All of the following instructions are
based on the assumption that you have modern phone jacks in your house (the
type that plug in, RJ-11 jacks), not the old hard-wired type. Also assumed
is that you are familiar with the PhoneNet type of network connectors for
the Macs. I'm just covering the house's phone wiring here. I have noticed a
small amount of interference on the phone when I'm transfering files, but
it's minor. I haven't noticed any problems the other way, phone
conversations haven't screwed up any file transfers.

All of the equipment is standard phone wiring, available at any Radio
Shack, or even K-Marts and WalMarts. One thing to watch out for is that the
wires to carry a small charge when the phone rings. If you're concerned
about this, leave a phone connected somewhere and take it off the hook. For
simple work, all you'll need is a small wire cutter/stripper and a
screwdriver. Small testers that plug into the phone jacks are also
available so you can check the connections, but it's not required.

If you have jacks near where you want your computer the cleanest way is to
replace the jack with a dual-jack model. There are different ones available
depending on whether you have the small jacks that stick out from the wall,
or the larger ones that are set in the wall like electric outlets. Be sure
to buy one with instructions on it. That will tell you which color wires to
connect to each jack (Sorry, I can't remember, I did my network over a year
ago. I used the directions that came with the jack, and it worked fine). I
made my phone the top connection and the network the bottom one, and kept
that consistent through the house.

If you need additional jacks, it becomes a little more complicated. If you
want more information, post again, or e-mail me direct.

Good Luck!

Bob,
Thanks , the trick worked wonderful! Not only I could reset the left
margin, but also edit the width, fonts, size etc which made the document
looks better. Using a smaller font size will save disk space too!
Thanks a lot too to those responding by email.
Victor Soleman

From: Robert Eye
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Victor,
Do a "Save As" on each classic-mac digest and then import into your
favorite word processor. If your wp is set up for a left margin, then the
digests should have one when imported. You might need to clean things up a
bit on each digest, due to formatting used by various posters, but it
should not take long.
Regards,

Bob Eye

Subject: Page Set Up Eudora V.1.5.1
Sent: 2/4/97 2:02 AM
Received: 2/5/97 10:42 AM
From: Victor Soleman
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Folks,
I want to keep the Classic Mac (after printing) in a nice binder as a
valuable reference.
However, when I tried to print on A4 paper through HP Desk Writer 320 from
PB520 the margin was too close to the left. If I punch two holes for the
binder, they will certainly cut the text. Anybody has a trick/solution to avoid
this problem.
Thanks,
Victor

Folks,
Again it is me for another help. Following Robert Eye's tips,I now
could reset the left margin avoiding the punch holes.

When I tried to print the last Classic Mac Digest 2.6: 1 & 2, after edditting I had 10 pages to print.
I previewed them and only page 1-5 were visible, from 6 to 10 were invincible. Wp is Claris Works and
Printer is HP DeskWriter 320. Pressing the Option button and pressing 'Print' at Preview didn't help, I still got empty/blank pages after the 6th pages. What did go wrong ?

Please advise what to do.

TIA
Victor Soleman

Sorry, this was cross posted to Mac Wizards also.

Forwarded message:

Subj: [macwiz] Which External CD rom?
Date: 97-02-12 22:06:46 EST
From: STUGHEAD
To: mac-wizards

Hi folks.

I'm in the process of turning my SE/30 into the most super SE/30 that I can
without major surgery. Running 7.5.5, 20megs Ram (maybe will be 32 later this
week?), Xceed color video card, and drooling over a DiiMo Accelerator.

I want to get a used CD rom. I understand that my bus probably can't do much
with anything over a 2x. (I.E. a 4x would not be faster given other SE/30
limitations)

If I can find a used external 2x CD Rom, what should I hope for? What should
I stay away from?

And while we're at it, should I be drooling over the DiiMo 50KHz
accelerator?

Thanks for your input.
Brian Scarborough

Cross-posted to Mac Wizards and Classic Macs.

Hi folks. Got another question on my quest for Super SE/30!

I want to add a 2x CD rom, which is hard to find. I have run across some
internal drives, but not too much luck with external :-(

What will be reqired to turn an internal into an external? (besides and extra
$50 for MacResQ)

Can someone direct me to a how-to book or other resource?

Thanks again!
Brian Scarborough