Table of Contents for this issue:

Re: Chooser question
Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.11
Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.11
Get your Old Compact Mac on the web
Classic on the web
RE: Classic Macs Digest 2.11
Web browser info for B&W Macs
MacPPP 2.0.1 on localized System 6
what speed simms?
macintosh display card 8€24
FreePPP 2.5v2 on IIci
Dust Covers
HP PRINTER DRIVER
Mac Plus questions
Kensington/ADB
SE/30
Mac IIsi upgrade
Chooser question
LC Problems
Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.11
Re: LC printer selection

Foley, Edward A. wrote at 18.02.1997 22:25 in "Classic Macs
Digest 2.11":

My neighbor's LC has the following two quirkies:

1. The printer selection in the Chooser won't persist from session to
session -- every time you turn the machine on, you have to go in and
select the printer again. She's using a HP Deskwriter through the serial
(modem) port.

2. The machine powers up in black and white, but when you do a restart
through the Finder, it comes on in color as it should.

The PRAM battery is empty. Replace it with a new one.

dIrk

Subject: SE 1/80 needs a floppy upgrade
Sent: 2/18/97 11:14 AM
Received: 2/18/97 9:49 PM
From: Ron Carlson
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

How does one upgrade the SE from an 800K to a 1.44M floppy drive. Simply
plug in the 1.44? Is there are ROM that needs to be changed along with
it?

I have a 1.44 from an old Mac IIcx - where can I find any needed ROMs or
software?

Regards, Ron Carlson

Yes you'll need the new ROM. Try at http://www.sunrem.com
Bye
LF

I have seen a few postings regarding converting internal CD drives into
external CD drives and how to do it. I have succesfully completed this
conversion by purchasing a case and converter from a company in Minnesota. If
you are interested contact me and I will find their phone number for you.

John

Here's my story for those who don't know...

I got my Mac Plus on the web. I used MacWeb to browse,
<http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/macweb.hqx> Newswatcher for news,
ircle for chat and Eudora for email on my Plus. It has 4 megs of ram (the
max) and a 40 meg drive. I use config PPP and MacTCP 2.06. I use system
7.01 (available at the Apple web site ot MacUser's software archives). 7.01
uses approx 1.5 megs with very few extensions.

I plugged in a Zip drive to transfer the system since it was too big for
the 800K floppy drive.

For full instructions on how I did this, go to
<http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/compactmac.hqx>

For more cool shareware, including lots of extensions and games and apps
for compact Macs, go to
<http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/Shareware.html>

JAG

Subject: Internet access for the mac classic
Sent: 2/18/97 9:06 PM
Received: 2/18/97 9:49 PM
From: Garry Stewart
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Hi Classic Macs!
I have recently been given some information for accessing the web and
writing e mail.

Will Mcnaughten gave me the information on how to download, but
I don`t think that it is possible with the system I am using at work,which
is an IBM clone.

Is there anybody in the Vancouver BC area who could help me .

Thanks
Garry

Hello All

For those of you who want to get on the web with a browser on a Plus, SE
or SE/30, Portable or other 68000 series Mac, here's the URL for the
MacWeb browser:

<Http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/macweb.hqx>

It will work with Macs with 4 megs minimum.

Here's the URL for an instruction manual on how to do it:

<Http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/compactmac.hqx>

Enjoy!

Jag

Subject: Enhanced SE/30 sound
Sent: 2/17/97 11:22 PM
Received: 2/17/97 11:40 PM
From: STUGHEAD
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Hi everyone. Hope you can help with this. I want to enhance the sound on my
SE/30. Right now, I have 8bit mono with no sound input, correct?

1) How can I get sound in?
2) Can I get stereo sound out?

I understand there may be a way to do it thru the serial port.

I think that the SE/30 has stereo out of back, so plug in a set of
'Walkman' headphones or powered Speakers, and there are a couple of
sound input options. I have a MacRecorder that plugs into a serial port.
There was also a shareware product called S.I.D., which was a sound
input device. Several other companies produced input devices from time
to time, try second hand.

PBJ

Subject: RE: monitor problems IIcx
Sent: 2/18/97 2:38 AM
Received: 2/18/97 8:38 AM
From: NeonGooch
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

From: Babette Thomson (Medium Pool)

Would this be the answer to my identical problem on my IIcx?
I posted my question last month, but nobody answered <sniff>. Also can I
do it myself? I've never taken a computer apart in my life.

You may just need a new battery in your Mac. Take it to a Mac dealer and
speak nicely to them. The Battery is a little hard to find on that
model, but it just may be the solution.

PBJ

Subject: Chooser question
Sent: 2/18/97 8:15 AM
Received: 2/18/97 9:12 AM
From: Foley, Edward A.
To: 'classic-post@hitznet.com', classic-post@hitznet.com

My neighbor's LC has the following two quirkies:

1. The printer selection in the Chooser won't persist from session to
session -- every time you turn the machine on, you have to go in and
select the printer again. She's using a HP Deskwriter through the serial
(modem) port.

2. The machine powers up in black and white, but when you do a restart
through the Finder, it comes on in color as it should.

Where should I begin in helping her with this?

Replace the Battery. It's in a small black case in the middle of the
motherboard.

PBJ

Anyone looking for information on web browsing with black and white Macs
like the Plus, SE and Classic might like to check out some info on my web
page at:

<http:/www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/macweb.html>

Of course, you'll need a browser to see it. Hmm....

A while ago I unsuccesfully tried to get MacPPP 2.0.1 to work on a Plus
running System 6.0.5 and 6.0.8; I even tried MacTCP 1.1, 1.1.1, 2.0.2,
2.0.4 and 2.0.6 but always Config PPP refused to open (Error opening
prefs).

Well, now I discovered that the reason for the failure was a localized
System - once I changed localized System Folder's name to "System Folder"
everything was OK!

I even installed a very low-end system with MacPlus, 1MB RAM and 1 DD
floppy drive. In addition to System 6.0.5, MacPPP and MacTCP, I managed to
squeeze to a single 800K floppy also NewsWatcher, NCSA Telnet or MacTCP
Watcher. Can you get any lower on a PPP-connection?! A high-end system with
a second floppy drive allows one to have more TCP-apps available :)

URLs of some communications programs and apps are available at:

<http://walli.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/mac-internet-faq.txt>

68000 mac page at:
<http://walli.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/68000.txt>

...from the faq:

If you want to use System 6 and connect via PPP, following software
versions work even with 1 MB RAM:

System 6.0.5-6.0.8

(MacPPP 2.0.1 insists that System Folder's name must be "System Folder" so if you are using a localized System change the folder's name accordingly),

MacTCP 2.0.6,
MacPPP 2.0.1,
NCSA Telnet 2.6,
Fetch 3.0.1,
Eudora 1.3.1,
NewsWatcher 2.0d13m01,
Internews 1.1,
MacTCP
Watcher 1.1.0

(older versions of these apps may use less memory).

Note that with System 6 MacTCP may crash when saving prefs for the first time so check that the prefs are actually saved.

To save space on a floppy-only system, install a minimum System for your mac and delete all System Folder items except System, Finder, PPP, ConfigPPP, MacTCP, PPP Preferences, MacTCP DNR and MacTCP Prep; delete also unnecessary fonts and DAs from the System file with Font/DA Mover (keep Control Panel DA, though) - this leaves 322 K of free space on a DD floppy with System 6.0.5 US (MacPlus minimum install). Unfatten also "fat" tcp-apps. Turn RAM Cache off to leave maximum amount of RAM to the apps.

<ftp://ftp.info.apple.com//Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/
Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/>

<ftp://ftp.info.apple.com//Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy_4.2.sea.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.info.apple.com//Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Other_N-C/MacTCP_2.0.6_Update.sea.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.funet.fi//pub/mac/info-mac/comm/inet/conn/mac-ppp-201.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.funet.fi//pub/mac/info-mac/comm/inet/ncsa-telnet-27b4.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.funet.fi//pub/mac/info-mac/comm/inet/fetch-301.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com//quest/mac/eudora/1.3/eudora131.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.brown.edu/pub/mac/NewsWatcher/NewsWatcher_2.0d13m01.sea.hqx>

<ftp://ftp.funet.fi//pub/mac/info-mac/cfg/strip-fat.hqx>

--
Matti Haveri
<http://walli.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/>

are there any advantages to using 70ns 1mb simms in a IIci as opposed to
100ns?

hilal

i have an apple macintosh display card 8€24 that i am not using. is there any advantage to using the card in a duo dock to drive my macintosh 16" display, as opposed to using the built-in video port? thanks.

hilal

i am trying to set up internet connectivity on a decommissioned IIci in
our <windoze> office, running under 7.1. i have downloaded and installed
freeppp 2.5v2. when i launch 'freeppp setup', the 'connect' button is
shaded (un-available), and to the right of it is something like this:
'not installed or selected, make sure freeppp is installed and selected,
then restart your mac'. i open the network control panel and re-select
'ppp' (or is it 'macppp') and restart, but that does not help. any ideas
what i may be doing wrong?

by the way, how do i get rid of the ppp pull-down menu which appears in
the finder next to the balloon help menu?

thanks
hilal

Whole Earth Access in Berkeley is reducing its computer dept. On
2/18/97 they had a huge inventory of nylon dust covers for Compact Macs and
Color Classics. Keyboard covers are also avaliable. Only $4.00!!! Hard to
find these days, help keep that little jewel dust free.
Tim Mar

My son-in-law using a IIx with system 6.0.7 and printing to a HP printer
crashed couple weeks ago. Had no system backup so I mailed him a disk with
basic system 6.0.7. He got it going but now can not print to the HP. Lost the
driver with the crash.

Is there any place I can d/l a HP driver? Prefer FTP site as am surfing the
internet using E-mail only on an original Mac Classic (2k+40K HD). Will take
a WWW site.

Got to upgrade one of these days<g>.
Thanks--guy

Hello,

I'm trying to fix up a Mac Plus for my girlfriend. Let me tell you
about it:

1. It has 256k RAM. I would like to upgrade it to 4MB. Good sources for RAM?

2. I have seen the MacAddict article about the Mac Plus. It is very good.

3. A friend has told me that if I'm intrepid enough, I can find someone on
the net who will sell me a 100 MB internal hard drive which will work on
the Mac Plus. Any of you out there?

4. Is it possible to get it to read double-sided, high-density diskettes?

5. If I upgrade to sys. 7.1, can I run Norton Utilities on this mac? What
about RamDoubler or SpeedDoubler? Can I install the newest versions of
these 2 programs on the Mac Plus, providing that it's upgraded to 4MB RAM,
100 MB internal HD, sys. 7.1?

Your comments will be greatly appreciated.

Mike Price wrote:

>Wanted -- A Kensington Trackball designed to work with a Mac SE
>( the plug fits into the side of the keyboard ) will negotiate
>or trade other equipment.

Any ADB device should work with any Mac newer than a Mac Plus (which
therefore includes the SE). I switch keyboards and mouses around all the
time with no problem. I have units ranging in age from an SE to a Power Mac
6100. Some products like Kensington's often require special software to
make the advanced functions work, but they generally work at a basic level
even without the software. Newer devices often require System 7.0 in order
for the software to work, so check that. IOW your problem is likely to be
hardware oriented than software.
george

Hi everyone.

I just picked up an SE/30 and have a couple of questions. First, it
powers up, but the screen is garbaged-up (grey/white/black lines on the
screen) no happy mac, no desktop, but I hear the fan, the scsi drive and
the screen does light up. Also, I've been repairing computers/workstations
for a long time (10 years) but haven't had to
open a Mac 512/Plus or SE before. I remember something about a special
tool for the screws by the handle and something like a pry-bar on the
other end. Any suggestions? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance Mac fans! :)

Danny

P.S.
If there is a tool, let me know where I could pick one up. Thx.

According to "Fix Your Own Mac" by Jan Harrington, DayStar made several PDS
accelerators for the '030 IIsi, from 33MHz to 50MHz. They also made 2 '040
PDS upgrades with pass thru. These were 40MHz with 128K cache, and 50MHz with
32k cache. Mobius made about 6 '040 upgrades, that have an adaptor that
replaces the CPU directly in the logic board. The original CPU is still
retained in the adaptor, allowing the original CPU and upgraded CPU to be
used.

I suspect that if you got any PDS accelerator, you could easily use it in
your dual PDS adaptor along with your graphics card.

Check MicroMac at <http://www.micromac.com>

DayStar at <http://www.daystar.com>

Sonnet may also make logic board direct accelerators,
<http://www.sonnettech.com>

Mobius <http://www.mobius.com> doesn't show any accelerator info on the web
page, but maybe if you call them at (800) MOBIUS1, they could give you some
info.

Brian Scarborough

>My neighbor's LC has the following two quirkies:
>1. The printer selection in the Chooser won't persist from session to
>session -- every time you turn the machine on, you have to go in and
>select the printer again. She's using a HP Deskwriter through the serial
(modem) port.

>2. The machine powers up in black and white, but when you do a restart
>through the Finder, it comes on in color as it should.

>Where should I begin in helping her with this?

>I can't tell you much about the machine, but I do know it is 100%
>factory hardware except for an add-on hard drive (LaCie) and it is
running System 7.0.

>Any suggestions will be appreciated, and I can get more information
>about her configuration if that would be helpful to anyone.

I would start by replacing the internal battery. Color and monitor
difficulties often seem to be caused by a dying battery.

Brian Scarborough

Ed,
Think the problem is a DYING BATTERY. Had similar problems with my
daughters LCII and a new battery cured it completely... after MUCH agony!
Good luck, Philip

In a message dated 2/19/97 1:15:04 AM, you wrote:

>Subject: Chooser question
>Sent: 2/18/97 8:15 AM
>Received: 2/18/97 9:12 AM
>From: Foley, Edward A.
>To: 'classic-post@hitznet.com', classic-post@hitznet.com

>My neighbor's LC has the following two quirkies:

>1. The printer selection in the Chooser won't persist from session to
>session -- every time you turn the machine on, you have to go in and
>select the printer again. She's using a HP Deskwriter through the serial
>(modem) port.

>2. The machine powers up in black and white, but when you do a restart
>through the Finder, it comes on in color as it should.

>Where should I begin in helping her with this?

This machine needs a new battery. Most likely the date is reverting to
1956 at each boot as well...

--- Chip

You need to replace the backup battery on the motherboard. It's not hard
to do; the most difficult step is to get the cover off the battery
holder. It'll cost ~$15 for a new battery. The symptons are classic signs
of a failing backup battery.

>My neighbor's LC has the following two quirkies:

>1. The printer selection in the Chooser won't persist from session to
>session -- every time you turn the machine on, you have to go in and
>select the printer again. She's using a HP Deskwriter through the serial
>(modem) port.

>2. The machine powers up in black and white, but when you do a restart
>through the Finder, it comes on in color as it should.

>Where should I begin in helping her with this?

>I can't tell you much about the machine, but I do know it is 100%
>factory hardware except for an add-on hard drive (LaCie) and it is
>running System 7.0.

>Any suggestions will be appreciated, and I can get more information
>about her configuration if that would be helpful to anyone.