Table of Contents for this issue:

Re: Resistor
Torx tools
Re: Mac Cracking Tool
RE: Classic Macs Digest 2.16
Re: 1986 SE RAM upgrade
Re: Floppy Mac on WWW?
Hard-drive partitions messed up.
Mac Cracking Tool
Mac Cracking Tool
LC & LC II RAM upgrades past 10 meg
Re: IIsi (displays)
Mac IIci - 32-bit Clean
Re: Mac Cracking Tool
RE: Terminal program for Mac
Mac SE's and PC Memory
MacTCP and 68000 Macs

In Classic Macs Post 2.15, Lawrence Montiero Asked:

The 88 has a three pin jumper which needs to be removed
for anything over 2MB RAM. The 86 has

RAM SIZE
256K (resistor here) R35
BIT
ONE (no resistor) R36
ROW

I was told to cut the one resistor to allow the upgrade from 1MB to 4MB

Yes, you should cut R35. The early Motherboard was like the Plus. I
would suggest you carefully clip the resister on one side and simply
move it out of the way. Make sure you cut it on the elbow as it bends to
the motherboard. This makes it easier to solder it back together if you
run into trouble or decide to return it to 1MB before selling it
(someday).

Good luck,
Daniel C. Jensen

the question was:

Here's another cry for help. I'm looking for a Torx 15 tool to
open my compact Macs. I bought one at Wal-Mart, but it won't reach the
screws under the handle. I've been to Home Depot, Lowe's, every other
hardware store in our town, automotive stores (the Torx 15 is used on
headlights), K-Mart, etc, etc. All of the ones I've found are too short!
Other than calling Apple and paying way too much for one of their
"official" tools, does anyone have an idea on where I can find one? I love
my Macs, but if I can't get to their guts, then I can't make them the best
they deserve to be.

Thanks,
Adam

The solution is to skip the torx display and buy a long allen wrench, many
have "T" handles on them. I can't remembber what size, but take one of the
screws out of the lower part, and get an allen wrench to fit. They work fine,
I have used one since my first upgrade kit from MacWarehouse,10 years ago, on
many clasic Macs.

ALSO:

there were several posts recently about old OSes and appropriate software.
THE BEST word processor for an old mac, ANY 680xx Mac, is WriteNow. The memory
requirements, speed, features, etc., are IMHO, about as good as it gets. I
hate to see the overhead of WORD, When I need page layout I'll fire up
Pagemaker.

IMHO, of course.

Hello everyone,

Here's another cry for help. I'm looking for a Torx 15 tool to
open my compact Macs. I bought one at Wal-Mart, but it won't reach the
screws under the handle. I've been to Home Depot, Lowe's, every other
hardware store in our town, automotive stores (the Torx 15 is used on
headlights), K-Mart, etc, etc. All of the ones I've found are too short!
Other than calling Apple and paying way too much for one of their
"official" tools, does anyone have an idea on where I can find one? I love
my Macs, but if I can't get to their guts, then I can't make them the best
they deserve to be.

Thanks,
Adam

Adam,

Contact MacConnection at (800) 659-0222 or at http://www.warehouse.com and
ask or look for the memory upgrade Toolkit for the Plus, SE SE/30, Classic
(Order Item # DTK 1302 -- $19.95 plus shipping). As I recall, it included
the tool you need and a step-by-step video on installing RAM upgrades in
various machines up through the IIci or the IIfx.

Good luck!
Ron Caffey

Subject: Re: IIsi Monitor Problems
Sent: 2/23/97 5:06 PM
Received: 2/23/97 5:26 PM
From: Steve Dropkin
To: cmpost, classic-post@hitznet.com

From: Ron Carter

I picked up a IIsi with 17mb RAM and 80mb HD and keyboard and mouse for
$75. It has card with 68882 co-processor but it will not fire up a monitor
from the monitor port on the motherboard. It did fire up a monitor with a
video card added to the co-processor board.

The card with the 68882 on it is an adaptor from the IIsi's proprietary
PDS (Processor Direct Slot) to Mac-standard NuBus. If you want to run the
IIsi from internal video, remove the coprocessor board. You're not using
it anyway ... But if you can score a video card, you'll find the IIsi
faster for not having main RAM occupied with video.

removing the card shouldn't make any difference, check the battery. Keep
the coprocessor board and some maths intensive apps will run better /
faster.

PBJ

Subject: Mac Cracking Tool
Sent: 2/23/97 6:31 PM
Received: 2/23/97 6:41 PM
From: alovett
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Hello everyone,

Here's another cry for help. I'm looking for a Torx 15 tool to
open my compact Macs. I bought one at Wal-Mart, but it won't reach the
screws under the handle. I've been to Home Depot, Lowe's, every other
hardware store in our town, automotive stores (the Torx 15 is used on
headlights), K-Mart, etc, etc. All of the ones I've found are too short!
Other than calling Apple and paying way too much for one of their
"official" tools, does anyone have an idea on where I can find one? I love
my Macs, but if I can't get to their guts, then I can't make them the best
they deserve to be.

Buy a TROX bit, cut a slot in the end so that a standard screwdriver
will fit. place a piece of plastic tube or heat-shrink around the bit so
that it stays on the end of the screwdriver. or get someone to weld in
on. Replace screws by slowly turning the screw anit-clockwise and wait
for the thread to click into the original groove in the case, then turn
the screw clockwise and it should follow the original grooves in the
screw hole. Do Not over tighten.

PBJ

Subject: Re: IIsi
Sent: 2/24/97 12:03 PM
Received: 2/24/97 6:14 PM
From: Gina Wallace
To: cmpost, classic-post@hitznet.com

A friend of mine bought the IIsi that I was asking about last week--but it
did not have a monitor, and he has run into conflicting opinions about what
monitor to buy. He would like to buy a VGA (?) monitor that he can later
use for a new Windoze (sigh) machine and evidently needs a converter to
make it work on a Mac--but some say not for IIsi. Also, can a TV serve as
a monitor for the IIsi? One of the people who wrote back to me said it had
video out capability. Sorry if my questions don't make much sense. I told
him to go ahead and buy an Apple color display and use it later for a new
power mac, but he's not convinced.

A VGA Multi-sync monitor will work OK on a IIsi and there is an adaptor
available from many sources that allows you to do this. He should be
able to get an adaptor to run the Apple Colour display through an
adaptor as a PC SVGA monitor. Yes you can output video from a IIsi but
the quality is not real good, and I don't think you get 640X480. You can
get Video out of many of the Mac video cards but it usually is not worth
the trouble.

PBJ

Lawrence Monteiro asked:

I have a Mac SE which was built in 1986 and another built in 1988. I
upgraded my 88 and everything works perfectly. The 88 has a three pin
jumper which needs to be removed for anything over 2MB RAM. The 86 has
no such three pin jumper. The motherboard is inscribed with the following
information in the area where the three pin jumper appears on the 88

RAM SIZE
256K (resistor here) R35
BIT
ONE (no resistor) R36
ROW

I was told to cut the one resistor to allow the upgrade from 1MB to 4MB
RAM by a outfit from which I bought my SIMMs, however, the person I spoke
with wasn't entirely sure this was correct.

You need to cut both resistors for more than 2 meg - right now it's set up
for 1 meg.

zws.com System Administrator asked:
Is it possible to get an old Mac on the web? In particular, I think my
Grandpa has a _floppy_ based mac....

Wow, this sounds impossible. Does he have one floppy or two? Are they 800k
or 1.44 meg?

The smallest graphical browser is probably MacWeb 1.00A3.2, which needs
466k of disk space. The app is all you need - no other files necessary
except a small (8k) prefs file. Using a utility called AutoDoubler Internal
Compressor I shrank MacWeb down to 282k - it still runs as a stand-alone
app. But it needs System 7. Can you run System 7 off a disk, even a 1.44
mb??

I have a Fujitsu 1.02 GByte disk drive which got its partitioning corrupted
by America OnLine ver 3.0 when first launched under System 7.5.5. The drive
will not mount, but SCSI Specialist and other tools do show the drive as
alive and responding on the SCSI bus. Quotes from 3 disk recovery services
ranged from $480 to $3600 - which seems ridiculous.

Does anybody have experience with Norton Disk Doctor in reconstructing bad
partitions? Or some other tool? Or a rationally priced recovery service?
I've tried several applications with no luck, they all require the volume
to mount to perform anything. The partitions were just the standard default
ones for a single volume drive.

thanks, Ron

Adam, on 2/23/97 6:31 PM, you wrote:

Hello everyone,

Here's another cry for help. I'm looking for a Torx 15 tool to
open my compact Macs. I bought one at Wal-Mart, but it won't reach the
screws under the handle. I've been to Home Depot, Lowe's, every other
hardware store in our town, automotive stores (the Torx 15 is used on
headlights), K-Mart, etc, etc. All of the ones I've found are too short!
Other than calling Apple and paying way too much for one of their
"official" tools, does anyone have an idea on where I can find one? I love
my Macs, but if I can't get to their guts, then I can't make them the best
they deserve to be.

Thanks,
Adam

Larry Pina suggested Sears Craftsman or Home Hardware in his book on fixing
and repairing the SE (which I believe is the title of the book as well). In
the same book he tells how to make an acceptable substitute out of a
socketed screwdriver set (by adding segments). Another possible source is
your local Snap-on dealer, or a Mac Tools dealer. Both carry a wide variety
of screwdrivers.

I do not know about your local library, but ours has three or four of
Pina's books on Mac repair, and they are invaluable if you want to repair
your own classic-Mac.

BTW, I believe that the book on repairing your SE has just been reprinted.
Check Peachpit press for details (http://www.peachpit.com/ I think).

Hope that helps.

Gary

Hi:
I saw Adam Lovett's cry for help in Classic Macs.

I have a "Mac Tool Kit", containing the torx 15 tool you need, along with a
case cracker and a wrist-band static grounding strap. It is from "Interex
Computer Products" and has a bar code
UPC: "0 31069 99009 4"

The box says that "Interex Computer Products" is a registered trademark of
Data Share, Inc. of Wichita, Kansas. Sorry, but there is no other address on
or in the box. I bought the kit 4 or 5 years ago from a mail order catalog
(but I no longer remember which one :-(

I hope this information is helpful.

Mike Simon

Subject: Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.15
Sent: 2/23/97 10:03 PM
Received: 2/23/97 10:21 PM
From: Dave Bogart
To: cmpost, classic-post@hitznet.com

On 2/23/97 4:22 PM, cmpost wrote:

I understand that Performa 400 are limited to addressing a max of 10 meg
physical RAM. I've got 8 installed now and use RAM Doubler 2.0. Is there
any wau for me to break the 10 meg limit?

You can exceed the RAM limit by using a CPU accellerator from MicroMac
that adds 4 additional SIMM slots, bringing total access to 26 megs. Cost
is 199 for the accellerator, $22 for each 4 meg SIMM. Also check the
archieves where this thread has been covered.

Joe Benevides

A friend of mine bought the IIsi that I was asking about last week--but it
did not have a monitor, and he has run into conflicting opinions about what
monitor to buy. He would like to buy a VGA (?) monitor that he can later
use for a new Windoze (sigh) machine and evidently needs a converter to
make it work on a Mac--but some say not for IIsi.

Plain-vanilla VGA is 640x480, same as the 13" color Apple display that the
IIsi supports. I believe he can use plain VGA with an adapter. He could
also buy a multisync display & the proper cable; it would display 640x480
on the IIsi and whatever the monitor & card would support on that Windog
machine later on. Recommend the multisync; he might change his mind about
the Windoze system once he gets a taste of Mac computing. :-) Then he
could move the monitor to his new PowerMac and get higher resolution by
swapping cables.

Also, can a TV serve as a monitor for the IIsi?

Once again, I believe it will if there is an RF modulator that plugs into
the Mac's video port... but the display quality will suck unless it has a
low-resolution mode. Remember the Commodore 64, Apple II, Atari 400/800,
etc.? There was a good reason those machines only displayed 40 columns --
that was all you could expect from a TV. The Commodore 128 had an 80-column
mode, but it wouldn't work on a TV; you needed a composite monitor. The
early Amigas supported a 60-column mode that was OK for TV, but I wouldn't
want to stare at it all day....

PBJ:

You're correct, the Mac IIci is 32-bit clean. I run mine with 32mb (8
4mb simms) without Mode32 or anything else. It shows all the memory, and
uses it according to plan. Everything's fine.

John B.

Here's another cry for help. I'm looking for a Torx 15 tool to
open my compact Macs. I bought one at Wal-Mart, but it won't reach the

Check out your local SnapOn supplier, they usually have everything.
The other possibility is a professional tool shop (not sears, what you
want is one of those outfits that sells tools for professional folks).
Try the yellow pages under tools.

From: martin.kaeser

i need a terminal program for my Mac 128K.
Any suggestion where i should look?

martin

Martin,

I would recommend using Zterm 0.9, a shareware program available on the
net. It gives you a popup note that it may not work on machines with
64K ROMs. Just ignore that. It works fine on my 128K mac with system
3.5...!

I don't remember if I tried the newer versions of the program, but
SOMEONE must have 0.9. I know I have it on a Shareware CD-rom. Try
ftp.amug.com or search through www.shareware.com.

Daniel C. Jensen

I recently aquired a Mac SE 1/20 for $25. I am thinking of upgrading
it to 4 meg and I have a question about memory for it. Can I use PC
memory (with parity)? People seem to be giving these simms away
lately. Also, how slow can the memory be for this beast.

I'm not entirely certain how slow the memory can go for an SE before it
wigs out, but just finding the memory is usually a challenge. I ended up
having to use MacWarehouse (1-800-255-6227) to hunt some down; all of my
other catalogs skipped the baby Macs. I don't think that Mac memory is
even close to PC memory, and especially the SE's funky little SIMM chips.
I would try either MacWarehouse or one of the other web sites that sell
Macintosh memory to be safe. Also, if you choose to upgrade it yourself,
make sure you have a Torx T-15 screwdriver with a looo-oong length and a
case spreader or a suitable substitute.

Good luck,
Nathan Marler

Hey Mac fans, just a little tidbit:

I've read somewhere that you can't use MacTCP on a 68000, so this is
"state of the art".

Au contraire. You can use Mac TCP on your 68000 Mac; I'm using it on my
Mac SE and it works wonderfully. I've tried getting my Mac connected
before via bazillions of TCPacks and other things and nothing has ever
worked as well.