Table of Contents for this issue:

Re: Networking Plus and SE
Hooking a Mac SE up to the internet
PB 100
Re: Networking Plus and SE
A knownothing enters/Two Used Pluses
Classic Mac Digest 3.6?
phonetic alphabet fonnts
Compact Virtual availability?
Re: Classic Macs Digest 3.12
Re: upgrading Mac Classic system
its looking for an FPU
ethernet flexibility
color quick draw
Re: mouse failure on LC
PINK SCREEN
Software for Lightning Scanner
Re: Networking Plus and SE

Date sent: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:04:16 -0500
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: Terry Galkaclassic-post@hitznet.com
Subject: Networking Plus and SE

I have aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to
network them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What do
I need to network in System 6.08

Thanks,
Terry

You need either the AppleShare FileServer version 2 (or
so) that will run on system 6, or a little CDEV that was
available back in 1989 called Public Folder. The
physical networking requires 2 localtalk connectors (one
for each computer) and some telephone wire.

If you want me to try to dig up my copy of public folder
(I THINK I still have a copy at work) send me e-mail &
I'll try to find it for you. It was not a pretty way of
sharing files, but it worked and the AppleShare file
server is VERY expensive, and when it is running it
locks up your Mac so all it is useful for is being a
file server.

Tim Scoff
<http://www.nb.net/~casper/>

Hi,

I have an SE with a 4/20 configuration with the 1.4
floppy. I am unable to run system 7 on it because the Radius full
page display that I have hooked up to the computer is
not compatible, so I have to use 6.0.8. I have a copy of
MacTCP from 1989 and I want to use it to hook up to the
internet. I have the Apple Internet Connection Kit (on
a 6100) and I also have a copy of the InterSLIP control
panel/extension.

Please send me any recomendations as to what software I need to
hook up to the internet. I have MacWeb 2.0, but I heard
that it won't work with system 6, and I have NewsWatcher
and Eudora. The only thing that I'm missing is a web
browser (I think) that will work on my SE.

Thank you in advance.

Tim Scoff
<http://www.nb.net/~casper/>

On 3/12/97 11:20 AM Fuzzy Gerdes wrote:

I just got a PowerBook 100 for a song. I'm sure the
main battery is completely dead, because it will only
start up with the AC adapter plugged in. Whenever I do
start it up, it says "Battery Reserve Power completely
gone - will sleep in 10 seconds to preserve memory."
which it then does.

I had a similar problem. Even after I got a new
battery, it still had problems when connected to the AC
adapter. It was the small socket in the computer where
the AC plug goes in, whose soldering to the motherboard
was "broken" so it made not contact well. I opened it,
removed the motherboard and remade the soldering. I was
lucky: it worked.

Cesare

It can also be the charging circuit. Take the battery
(rechargable) out, and boot the computer, if the "low
battery" message goes away, it's probably the charging
circuit (don't have any idea why it goes bad, or how to
fix it).

You can also check it with the battery (rechargable) out
by putting a wood pencil in the empty cavity, and
pressing on the little micro switch lever arm (facing
you). By pressing it in (after re-booting), the charging
circuit thinks a battery is present, and if the circuit
is bad, will give off the "low battery" message, by
removing the pencil and rebooting, it will go away
(charging circuit "sees" no battery installed).

If you want to use the PB100 on AC only, then the
problem is solved, just don't install the battery, or if
you don't want that gaping hole, gently bend the micro
switch lever arm back (to the right) until it is almost
"open", you can then install the battery and lock it,
without getting the error message (the arm can always be
bent back should you find a fix for the charging
circuit).

Rear battery switch has to be "UP" (battery connected).

IGHA/HorseAid Volunteer

I have aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to
network them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What do
I need to network in System 6.08 ?

Normally Macs under System 6.0.8 can be clients to
System 7 file sharing, but can't be servers. There was a
program called 'Tops' that allowed one to make a Mac
under System 6.0.x be a server. With the advent of
System 7 and personal file sharing, that program and
company went away. If you run one of the computers you
have under System 7.0.1, then you can make it into a
server.

Edwin C. Togami

The four meg Mac turns ? into happy face when I
insert installer disk.

Churns, then does nothing. Happy face in middle of
otherwise dark screen. Disks do not eject. Paper clip
works badly ... on both. Pushing clip will raise
housing; tweezer will then grab disk and pull partially
forward. With third hand, grab disk, pull about half
inch out, second push on paper clip then ejects disk.

You have no drive to install the disks onto. That's
OK, I beleive you can
download a startup disc form Apple that you can use in
the floppy to run the Mac with no drive. ANybody out
there know for sure?

Yes, it can run from floppies. Did that the first 6
months I owned my beloved Plus. System on one disk, Word
4 on another and files on a third one.

It worked fine, but in the end I got a bit tired of
playing "disk-jockey". It requires a lot of shifting
between the disks. Now I run it with two external 20 mb
harddrives.

In order to start up the Plus needs a disk with a
systemfile and a finder. That's the least. If it can't
start up on this, something else must be wrong.

To get it to really work, the Startup disk should
contain these files: System, Finder, General, Keyboard,
Sound, Mouse. The Systemfiles from system 6.0.4 to 7.0
can be downloaded from Apple:
ftp://ftp.apple.com./Apple.Support.Area

From there you
go: Apple Software Updates
Us
Macintosh
System
Older System
Then pick the sytem you want

Yeah well, I did that a couple of days ago and then it
worked. They move around a lot on Apple so...

I've used system 6.0.5 and I think it's the most stabile
and fastest for a Plus. Won't work if you're going on
the Internet I guess. But someone else 'round here knows
how to do that and posts about it once a week.

Good luck
Tina

Hi:

I subscribe to the Classic Mac Digest and did not
receive issue 3.6? Was this issue released?

I looked at your FTP site and it did not appear to be
there. FWIW, the FTP site stores files on a date basic,
when it seems to me that it should store them in the
same way that I receive them via my subscription. It
should have files with the same name as the digest and
not be date based. For example, digest 3.5 should have
a file in the FTP site named "CMD0305.TXT".

Also, why don't you sequentially number the digests
instead of using the volume/issue format? I think the
simple numbering scheme would be better since it allows
subscribers to know if they have received all the issues
since the volume/issue scheme has not logical ending
number for each volume.

Great digest. I have some information that I plan to
send soon that I think other digest readers will find
useful.

David T. Craig

greatings

this is difficult to explain: a friend of mine wants to
reproduce on his mac international phonetic characters.
these are the letters with special dots, dashes, tildas,
etc.. on them that are used for explaining how a word is
pronounced. dictionaries use them. the mac can do _some_
of these as part of the international letters support
(e.g. e is option-e, e). his teacher at columbia has the
fonts on his windoze machine. i have looked around on
the web but found nothing. any help would be greatly
appreciated. hopefully if i receive any responses, i
will post a compilation in a couple of weeks. thanks.

hilal

Hi all -

I have a zippy Mac SE (zippy because it has a Mobius
accelerator)and need to find the Compact Virtual
software. (CompactVirtual allows the older classic macs
to use RAM that is on board the accelerator...)

Connectix developed it, but no longer supports the
product. The accelerator companies that used to sell the
software seem to no longer have it, and their drivers do
not work for the Mobius accelerator.

>>> Update: I just read John Stephens post pointing to Galaxy Hardware for
a similar problem mailto:sales@galaxyhp.com -- I will
check them out -- but would still appreciate other
possible sources as well. <<<

Does anyone know a source for CompactVirtual? I will be
grateful for any leads --

thanks,

kevin c.

< > Kamakura-shi
<http://www2.gol.com/users/kcleary> Kanagawa-ken
<http://pweb.sophia.ac.jp/~k-cleary>

On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, cmpost wrote:

The Mac you have is not limited to a 2400 modem. I use
a 14,400 modem on my MacPlus with sytem 6.0.7. The
Plus is older and slighty slower than a Classic. Any
used 9600 or 14.4 modem should work. You don't need
any software for it to use it in place of your 2400,
but you may need a new Mac to modem cable. It is best
to avoid a 28,800 modem with a Classic, it does tend
to be too fast for it.

I used my 14.4 for a while with my old SE/30 and it
worked great. However, I wanted to add that you
definitely want to get a cord that supports "hardware
handshaking". I found this out when trying to use a
printer cord (looks the same I thought) and the modem
wouldn't work.

You can use a 14.4, but it will work at 9600 baud due
to SE restrictions. You can also use Word 5.1a
(although it's slow) on a 4 meg, sys 7 Mac. You may
want to buy a used LC ($300) or IIsi ($500 w/monitor).
Faster, will run Netscape, lots of other color apps.

I retired my SE/30 and upgraded to a IIvx. It only cost
me around $400, but is great because it has the same
case as a PPC 7100. So I easily bought a CD mounting kit
for a 7100 and installed a 2x CD in my IIvx, worked
great. I would recommend it as an upgrade cuz' it's
cheap, you can have an internal CD, and it has multiple
nubus slots and a PDS slot too. So you can add a lot of
goodies to it easily.

The Rocket Scientist

Steve Dropkin writes:

...I've used an Okidata 393 with GDT's PowerPrint
software and was pleased
with it.

Does anyone ever sell GDT used? Seems a shame to spend
$100 on software and a cable so you can buy a cheaper
printer ... :-P

Cheaper printer? The Okidate 393 sold for $1500 new.

Bob Joyce

Its probably looking for an FPU. There is a software FPU
emulator, but I don't know for sure that it runs on your
model. ;-)

eric the web wandering wonderer

To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: David Buchner
Subject: PowerBook 100 Unimplemented Trap Date
sent: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:33:45 +0000

This "Unimplemented Trap" thing is the single most
popular way for software to crash when it doesn't like
running on a PB100. It is the "explanation" offered by
the system error "bomb" alert. It always happens right
away when I try to launch the interesting-but-sorry-
not-on-THIS-computer new download of the day. At least I
can see right away if it'll work or not.

Not that I think I can do anything about it, but I'm
curious -- does anyone happen to know (VERY generally)
what this means in the mind of the Mac OS and what it is
in the PB100 it's taking such an exception to?

David Buchner

I use one that was designed for the SE30 in my IIsi.
Don't know the brand or model, just that its worth
trying whatever you lay your hands on.

eric the web wandering wonderer

From: PGardella
Date sent: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:30:14 -0500 (EST)
To: classic-post@hitznet.com Subject:
LC II and Ethernet

I am looking to add an ethernet card to my LC II. We
are using 10base-T (rj45 connector) with the normal 10
MBPS ethernet. It does not have to be Fast Ethernet
compatible. (For that matter, it can be 10Base2, if it
would be cheaper!) Does anyone have any experience with
any of the PDS ethernet cards? From what I can tell,
there are three currently availible cards, all about the
same price. They are made by Asante, Farallon and
EtherMac.

If anyone has any other suggestions, I would appreciate
them. Or any possible used cards that are availible.
Small Dog Electronics (http://www.smalldoggy.com) has
some cards (new and used) but none are LC II compatible.

Thanks!
Patrick Gardella

What its looking for is a minimum 13" monitor and
ColorQuickDraw built into the ROM.

eric the web
wandering wonderer

Date sent: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:45:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Kankiewicz
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
Subject: more on system requirements

Subject: [macwiz] SE/30 vs. ][ci
Sent: 3/11/97 3:24 PM
Received: 3/12/97 7:01 PM
From: rbjones
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

I recently recieved an offer for an encyclopeadia on
CD-ROM. For the system requirements it listed a Mac
][ci minimum. Is there any reason that this program
would not run on a SE/30. From all i can tell the only
differences are processor speed and the color factor
(which can be over come witha card). Is there
something else I have over looked? Any info would be
greatly appreciated. TIA

Loyally Mac
Bruce

I too am wondering about this. I have a cd-rom that
says it requires an LCIII or later (which I do own).
Why wouldn't earlier strong '030s run it, like the IIci,
IIfx, or IIvx?

Michael Kankiewicz

Waters, Rupert wrote:

I have an LC that has worked perfectly for many years
that is until the mouse button failed.. it made a flat
click and stayed jammed in the down position, I a have
tried gently tapping the mouse on the side but it
refuses to budge back to its non depressed position, so my
question is how do i take it too bits and replace the spring mechanism?

regards rwater

Generally it is easier to buy a new mouse.
Maybe one of the rebuilders will swap.
Somebody like Schrieve.

The device is kept together with screws.
The screws are on the bottom, under the label.
Generally the sprint is in the microswitch in the mouse.
I think they are soldered in. Maybe RadioSHack can order
one for you, or go to a electronics store.

Bruce

Subject: PINK SCREEN
Sent: 3/8/97 11:00 PM
Received: 3/9/97 3:25 PM
From: dhill
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

One of the buildings in our district has a neat Power
Mac 5200/100 Performa. I love it and use it all the
time to scan in pictures on an attached OneScanner.
They also have Adobe Photo Shop on board. The default
screen color has turned to a pinkish/purple and does
not change. All white areas are pinkish/purple and
sometime flickers to either a deeper purple or or more
pinkish pink. Resetting the color tints simply changes
to a different color be the default pinkish/purple
remains the same. My guess is that some type of
circuit filter or something has failed. A check with
our homepage shows the Gif Images made with the Mac at
www.tanet.net/~sunlib, are fine. Any ideas with this?

======>Dale

This is a common problem with the 5200 series. Apple
extended the warranties on these machines because of
this and several other problems. It took two trips from
the service rep the fix the problem on my Performa
5215CD. The problem stems, I am told, from corrosion of
the internal video connector. On the first trip, the
service rep cleaned the connector, which worked only for
a short while. On the second call, the service rep
replaced the cable and connector, which seems to have
cured the problem.

Jordan

I recently was given a LightningScan hand held scanner
with no software. I received the software which consists
of a desk accessory and an application as a result of a
previous Classic Macs post, but only the DA will work.
I suspect that the old software is not compatible with
System 7.5 which I am using on my Mac IIsi. If anyone
has more current software or know how I can make the
scanner work with the old please let me know.

Thanks,

Greg McNeil

P.S. The scanner was made by an apparently Defunct
company named Thunderware.

Date sent: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:04:16 -0500
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: Terry Galka
Subject: Networking Plus and SE

I have aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to
network them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What do
I need to network in System 6.08 ?

System 7

Put 4M in both, it isn't very expensive especially if
you can find used memory. Put System 7 (and Update 1.0)
on at least one of the machines for it to act as file
server. There are a couple of methods for file
interchange using System 6 but neither are satisfactory.

Clark Martin