Table of Contents for this issue:

Re: Networking Plus and SE
AOL via PPP on a LC running System 6
Macintosh 512k (WITH A SCREEN PROBLEM)
More than one Provider in one Mac
RE: Classic Macs Digest 3.16
System 6 documents
Re: Classic Macs Digest 3.17
Funky Radius 68020/16 card
RE: Adjusting picture on Classic
Re: Classic Macs Digest 3.16
Why not just Appletalk?
Old Mac networking
Mac carrying bags

Please forgive the dense question...

Do I correctly understand this discussion to mean that
all this fancy, no-brainer LocalTalk file sharing stuff
didn't really happen System 7? I never had more than one
Mac till after 7, I guess I just thought it had always
been as simple as install the file sharing and appletalk
extensions, plug 'em in, turn on file sharing, look for
servers in the chooser. No? How much different?

I have aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to
network them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What
do I need to network in System 6.08 ?

You need either the AppleShare FileServer version 2
(or so) that will run on system 6, or a little CDEV
that was available back in 1989 called Public Folder.
The physical networking requires 2 localtalk
connectors (one for each computer) and some telephone
wire.

David Buchner

I have a friend that needs to get a 2mb LC running 6.0.8
to hook up to AOL via a PPP connection. The problem is
that for AOL to work under this circumstance, you need
to have the Communications Toolbox (which is built into
System7).

He found an installer for the toolbox and system 6 but
it installed System6.0.5, which the LC doesn't seem to
like.

System7 is not an option due to the memory constraints.

Can anyone recommend a way to get this to work?

Please email a response to BChaffer. He will
greatly apppreciate it.

Thanks!
-Dave

David Emmons

Just resently I noticed that when I boot up my 512k the
screen apears to be huge. The screen looks too wide and
too tall for the monitor space. Plus all the graphics,
like the question mark, happy mac, and the rest of the
screens contents are 4 times bigger than what they
should be. In fact some of the menu bar is no longer on
the screen but it does exist.

This problem occured while the computer was sitting idle for about 1 hour. I
have no hard drive and I currently have an internal 800k floppy.

I love my original Mac, and if there is someone out there than can heelp me,
please respond. (I tried adjusting the monitor inside but it doesn't seem to be the source of the problem)

THANX,
MIKE

Greetings,

I would like to know if anybody has tried more than one
Internet Service Provider in one Mac ? Had tried my
self, but each time ppp must be changed with the next
ISP's data or it caused a conflict or 'hang'. Is there a
trick or possibility to run more than one ISP without
doing to complicated steps.

Since I travelled alot, email response is highly
appreciated.

Tons of thanks.
Victor Soleman

From: NeonGooch
Date sent: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:01:04 -0500 (EST)
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
Subject: Some system 6 files?

I was wondering what is the purpose of two system 6.0.7
files that are installed by the standard install, but
not by the minimum install.

1. The system document "easy access". This is not the system 7
control panel Easy Access or the system 6 control
panel Close View. It is not a control panel but a
system document.

A realy early version of Easy Access may not have had a
control panel interface but still gave the same
functions as the later versions. Hit the shift key 5
times to activate it?

2. The system document "da handler".

Answers to either or both would be appriciated. I
think I know what everything else in the system
disks do.

DA handler is used by MultiFinder to handle Desk
Accessories in a Multitasking enviroment. This Item and
MultiFinder are invisible in system 7.

PBJ

I was wondering what is the purpose of two system 6.0.7
files that are installed by the standard install, but
not by the minimum install.

1. The system document "easy access". This is not the
system 7 control panel Easy Access or the system 6
control panel Close View. It is not a control panel but
a system document.

2. The system document "da handler".

On my SE the document "Easy Access" was actually a control
panel. It is one of those funky ones that is selective
about what type of machine it will work on, similar to
the "Brightness" and "Monitors" control panels (which,
you may have noticed, work only with certain Macs, such
as the Classic or any separate-monitor system, respect-
ively). Oddly enough, with the arrival of System 7, it
magically worked with the baby Macs. Go figure.

DA Handler was a program that, while used in MultiFinder
to background-task desk accessories, could also be in-
voked by the user, with limited or no functionality, via
the option-Command keypress/click combination (this can
sometimes run items that normally say "Cannot open since
the creator for this document cannot be found").

Hope this helps,

Nathan Marler

Since there has been some discussion of the Powerbook
100's batteries, does anyone know if they can be
reconditioned/repaired. I have one which gives a max of
30 mins, and one that lasts about 30 seconds, so I am
willing to experiment if necessary.

Regards,
Michael Skeggs

Hello Mac fanz,

I have a Mac SE 4/160 with System 7.0.1/System 7 Tune-up
and I just bought a Radius 68020/16 card. It is ROM
version 2.0 and has some oddities. They are like this:

One, I cannot run any programs from Microsoft, nor can I
run: Virex INIT, System 7 Tune-up, NCSA Mosaic 1.0.3,
Fetch 3.0.1, Internet Config, or Eudora Light 3.01,
since they all die with an "Unimplemented trap" error.
Needless to say, this limits me terribly. Also, when
the card is installed, the sound is crackly and
distorted from the internal speaker; this situation is
corrected upon removal of the card. Even stranger, I
cannot write correctly to or format high-density disks
in my SuperDrive when the Radius card is piggy-backing
on the motherboard (though I can do 800K disks), but
this too is corrected by removing the card. Finally,
even installing the motherboard back into my SE is hard;
the Radius card is really big and makes the typical
process of sliding the board back in on its rails
impossible; I have to bend the rails back and "clip" the
board back in. I suspect that the programs that don't
run immediately see a 68020 processor and think "Gee!
That must mean that there's ColorQuickDraw too!" and
they crash with an "Unimplimented trap" error due to its
absence. The reason for the drive weirdness is
absolutely beyond me; the only thing I can think of is
electromagnetic/physical clearance/heat interferences of
some sort. The speaker is also befuddling; the wire
ends up running right on top of the Radius card when it
is installed, so I suppose that the card generates some
interference that the speaker wire picks up.
Interestingly enough, I ran Spirit Technologies'
TechAssist and it found some little discrepancies
between my SE as itself and my SE with the Radius card.
Without the card, TechAssist reports the norm: 68000
processor, no ColorQuickDraw, etc. WITH the card,
TechAssist finds a plethora of stuff that one would not
normally consider typical of an SE: It "finds"
ColorQuickDraw, finds other chips that my SE shouldn't
have, and basically happens upon several other items
that are utterly contradictory to an SE (things
requiring color, for instance). So here are my
questions: 1) What's causing the interference with the
floppy drive and the sound? I used ARDI's Executor Mac
emulator for the PC, and my PC drive read fine the
floppies that I had written to without the Radius card
installed, but the presence of the card created
problems. Also, if I tried to format an HD disk, the
drive immediately spat it back out with an
"Initialization failed!" error. 2) I read in a recent
digest that Radius recommends calling them for an
upgrade if you have a ROM v 2.0 and older. Should I
upgrade to make it more compatible? 3) Would the ROM
upgrade solve my System 7 tune-up woes? I tried booting
with 6.0.7, but nothing really changed. Any information
that you can give my about ABSOLUTELY ANY aspect of this
card would be welcome. I'd really like to keep it in my
machine, because the performance is phenominal and once
you get used to the speed, it's hard to go back.

Thanks in advance for any help you all can give,

Nathan Marler

I highly recommend the book "Mac Classic & SE Repair and
Upgrade Secrets" by Larry Pina. Peachpit Press (800)
283-9444

Brian Scarborough

On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, you wrote:

From: Carol Sue Cain Miller
Subject: Upgrading Memory
in a Mac Classic II

Can someone point me to a source for information on
upgrading memory in a Mac Classic II? I just bought
one with 4MB and I would like to upgrade.

I found 4-meg 30-pin simms for $26 at:
http://www.apcom.com/apl

From: Tony Spinetta
Subject: Padded Carrying Case for "Toaster"
Macs?

I'm going to use the SE/30 as a portable Mac for the
foreseeable future, and I 'd like to purchase a padded
carrying case for it.

Sun Remarketing sells padded old Mac cases. Here's their
info:

http://www.sunrem.com
sales@sunrem.com
(800) 821-3221

T.J. Patterson
http://www.primenet.com/~monoply/credit.html

In reply to:

Date sent: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:04:16 -0500
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: Terry Galka
Subject: Networking Plus and SE

I have
aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to network
them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What do
I need to network in System 6.08 ?

Load system 7 on the SE, or find a Claris freeware
product called 'Public Folder'. It transfers files
around macs in a relatively easy manner. It works with
system 6 and uses the Chooser so you can operate it from
within an application. You can get away with a simple
phonenet network or a plus to mini 8 imagewriter II
printer cable as the connection between the 2 macs.

PBJ

Maybe I just don't understand, but I don't know why
someone would have to root around and look for something
called "public folder." I recently hooked up via the 8
minidin Mac printer cable mentioned above, a Mac Plus
and a Power Macintosh 9500--the Plus running System
6.0.5 and the 9500 running System 7.5.5. Both
communicated via Appletalk/Appleshare just like they
should with each other and absolutely NO
incompatibilities!

--bj

Experience has dictated that while a Mac running System 6.0+ can
easily communicate with another Mac that's more advanced and running
some form of System 7+, the point that seems to be missed fre-
quently is that two old Macs cannot communicate with each other
as file servers via linked printer ports and AppleShare, nor can
a more advanced Mac talk to an old Mac running System 6 as a server.
I tried this with my Mac SE running 6.0.7 and a PowerMac 5200LC/75
running System 7.5.3, and while my SE could nab stuff off of the
Power Mac's hard disk and successfully link to its programs, the
Power Mac never could see that the SE was a possible server. Upon
installation of System 7 (and a memory upgrade ;-)), the situation
was corrected, and both machines could see each other in their
entireity. System 6, it would seem, only allows a form of terminal
emulation when connected with another computer, apparently assuming
that everything else will always be an AppleShare server.

Semper Macintosh,

Nathan Marler

In response to:

Date sent: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:45:57 -0800
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: Tony Spinetta
Subject: Padded Carrying Case for "Toaster" Macs?

Greetings, folks!

I just finished tweaking an SE and an SE/30 back into
happy Macs.

I'm going to use the SE/30 as a portable Mac for the
foreseeable future, and I 'd like to purchase a padded
carrying case for it.

I remember that such an item used to be hot on the Mac
mail order circuit. The bag also had partitions to
protect the keyboard, and modem. Does anyone know where
I might be able to find this bag nowadays?

Tony Spinetta

Westridge Designs in Portland, Oregon has the Padded Mac
bags for Plus, SE, Classic, etc. I bought mine from
them for about $100.00 a few months ago.

--bj