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Re: Classic Macs Digest 3.20
request
Re: Question:Classic w/OS 7.5.3 & OT
Need advice on purchasing...
Re: Question:Classic w/OS 7.5.3 & OT
UltraPaint 1.05 at rock bottom prices
Re: Upgrading Macintosh SE RAM
Accelerating a Mac LC
Q:New Science Project.. Mac TV --> LC 550 or 75?


Subject: Re: Classic Macs Digest 3.20
From: DavidKST
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:58:16 -0500 (EST)
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

From: Terry Galka

I have aquired a Mac Plus and SE. I would like to
network them so I can exchange software and use as a
communication device at my home (to play with). What
do I need to network in System 6.08 ?

I have just downloaded Public Folder from Claris, but haven't tried it yet.
<ftp://ftp.claris.com/pub/USA-Macintosh/x.Shareware-Freeware/PublicFolder1.01.bin>

On another subject covered fairly often here - MacII PRAM Batteries.
My MacII at work has been difficult to start up in the mornings, but with no
loss of memory or settings. I have tried keyboards, cables etc. without any
luck. I called Galaxy HP (888-345-1817, good guys!) who helped me with the
following information about the power supply cable pins:
Pin 1 : +12voltsDC
Pin 2-6 : +5VoltsDC
Pin7-12 : Common
Pin13 : Nothing
Pin14 : -12voltsDC
Pin15 : +5voltsDC to start (Turn on the power supply)

I used two AA batteries in series and some jumpers to power Pins 15 and one
of the commons and the Mac started right up. I have ordered two new batteries
from Galaxy. The original pair of batteries are now10 years old and in need
of a rest!

(The battery in my Performa 460 only lasted about 4 years!)

DavidKST


Subject: request
From: RJMusser
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:49:52 -0500 (EST)
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

I enjoy the Classic Mac Digest.

It would be much nicer if you put a table of contents at the beginning like
they do on the MacWay Digest.

Roger Musser

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: I will try to incorporate such a feature in future
issues if I find that I have sufficient time to do so. Thank you for the
suggestion. I have not read the MacWay Digest, so my initial attempts may
be weird...bear with me.]


Subject: Re: Question:Classic w/OS 7.5.3 & OT
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:33:45 +0100
To: cmpost <classic-post@hitznet.com>
From: Dirk von Seggern

Bo Schnick wrote at 21.03.1997 22:30 Uhr -0500 in "Classic Macs Digest 3.20"

Is anyone using System 7.5.3 or 7.5.5 and Open Transport
1.1.2 and OT PPP 1.0 on a Classic?

Open Transport and OT/PPP require a Macintosh with a 68030, 68040, or
PowerPC microprocessor, at least 8 megabytes (MB) of RAM, system software
version 7.1 or 7.1.2 or system software version 7.5.3 or later (not earlier
versions of system 7.5, system software version 7.5.3 or later is
recommended).

On a Classic you can only use MacTCP 2.0.6 and MacPPP 2.0.1.

System 7.5.5 works on a Classic, after a manual(!) installation it takes
1.5 MB.

dIrk


Subject: Need advice on purchasing...
From: "Giles"
To: <classic-post@hitznet.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:50:31 -0500

I'm wanting to purchase a compact Mac for the purpose of getting on the
Internet... and I'm SORRY, I've been in Windows Hell for so many years I'm
not even sure where to begin.

I've ascertained that the Mac SE/30 is supposed to be the best/most
expandable compact Mac, but now I need to know stuff like modem, software,
etc.

Basically I just want to be able to dial into a PPP-type account and get
email, get on the IRC... I don't particularly care if I can't even get on
the web, frankly.

Any help/suggestions on this topic would be greatly appreciated...
preferably by mid-April, 'cause this is for a birthday gift. :)

Thanks!

giles


Subject: Re: Question:Classic w/OS 7.5.3 & OT
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:04:28 -0500 (EST)
To: cmpost classic-post@hitznet.com>
From: Bo Schnick

At 12:33 PM +0100 3/25/97, Dirk von Seggern wrote:

Open Transport and OT/PPP require a Macintosh with a 68030, 68040, or
PowerPC microprocessor, at least 8 megabytes (MB) of RAM, system software
version 7.1 or 7.1.2 or system software version 7.5.3 or later (not earlier
versions of system 7.5, system software version 7.5.3 or later is
recommended).

Thanks for reminding me of the above. Now I remember reading this in the OT
manual. I have been trying to learn *TOO* much lately, my brain is
over-loaded I think. I use OT and OT/PPP on my 68LC040 Mac and my 8500/120,
but run MacTCP and MacPPP on the 68000 Classic.

On a Classic you can only use MacTCP 2.0.6 and MacPPP 2.0.1.

System 7.5.5 works on a Classic, after a manual(!) installation it takes
1.5 MB.

On my Classic with the just plain old Mac OS 7.5 (no updates) and what I
will call a minimum set of extensions for WWW connection it's system
resources use 1.7-1.8 MB. So what I think I will do is install Mac OS 7.5.5
and see what memory use it takes. What kind of "manual(!)" installation
were you thinking of? Not the easy install?, but a "custom install" of just
those things that you pick? What components did you custom install to get
the small memory "footprint" of 1.5 MB.

Thanks for your accurate advice. If you get the chance take a look at my
links on my site to the Classic Macs section.
<http://ns1.inet.net/~bschnick>. Any advice or links that you thik could be
added would be a big help. I'm thinking about making a site devoted to
older Macs with a bulletin board type sytem on the web page and a
classified section where people could post Mac parts for sale or trade.

Thanks again,

Bo


Subject: UltraPaint 1.05 at rock bottom prices
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:59:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Manuel Mejia
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Several years ago, Deneba Software's Ultra Paint color painting/drawing
program was called the high end of the drawing programs for the Mac.
Programs like Freehand have since taken dominence over the drawing
program for Mac market in some quarters. The Best Buy store chain was
selling remaining packs of this software for $15.00. Considering the Sun
Remarketing is selling the monochrome MacPaint 2.0 for $19.00, the Best
Buy store chain offer was too good to pass up. I would suggest that anyone
who has a Best Buy nearby and runs a Mac LC/2 series computer get a box. I
worked much better than Claris 2.0's color program.

****

Manuel Mejia, Jr.


Subject: Re: Upgrading Macintosh SE RAM
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 01:09:40 +0000
To: classic-post@hitznet.com
From: Christopher Adams

matthew wilkins

I have a Macintosh SE (dual floppy system) with 1 meg of RAM that I would
like to upgrade to 4 megs of RAM. I can get the SIMM's for almost
nothing, but the installation costs would make it cheaper to just buy
another system. Here's my question: Is this something I can do myself?

I got these instructions on adding RAM to an SE from the guy who supplied
my 4 megs some years ago - Duane Burghard of Mardun Software. I had no
problems following them. See previous posts re taking out screws and
opening the case.

===============
After you've removed all the screws, set the SE screen-down before prying
it open. Once you've removed the cover, take away the foil covering of the
motherboard and set it aside - it will just get in your way. *Before*
yanking at the motherboard to get it out (this is important) disconnect the
power source and the drives - floppy(ies) and/or HD. Don't worry, they're
hard to miss.

If you're like me (a clod with big fingers) you'll find the power source a
pain. A little plastic thingy toward the screen side pushes in and makes
the power cord come right off .. if you can get your darn finger in there.

Lift the motherboard slowly (it will require some pressure) until you see
the indentations in the edge of the motherboard line up with the holes in
the board's guide rails. Swing the motherboard out slowly. Stop. See that
little wire still attached? That's the speaker wire. It's pretty impossible
to reach at any other time so you have to disconnect it and reconnect it at
this stage (it comes out easily).

Place the board on a flat, dry, dirt-free surface gently. Remove the old
SIMMs by placing your thumbs at the sides of each slot and putting pressure
on the clips. You'll feel the SIMM release and you can just pull it out.

Place the new SIMMs in the same way - set them in place and press gently
until the clips snap them in. If you want to move to four megabytes you
must snip a resistor (* see below) on the motherboard marked RAM size, R35.
Cutting it allows the SE to recognize four meg.
===============

Standard Apple warning: "Only qualified service personnel should open the
computer's main unit. The Macintosh SE contains extremely high-voltage
components that retain an electrical charge, even after the unit is
switched off".

(* Later motherboards used dip switches instead of resistors).

Christopher Adams


Subject: Accelerating a Mac LC
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:07:34 -0600
To: Classic Macs <classic-post@hitznet.com>
From: Oscar Chavez

I have a Mac LC with 10 MB RAM, 16 MHz FPU, 40 MB internal HD, 270 MB
external HD, 14.4 kbps external modem. I would like to get some speed in
it. So, has anyone an opinion (or personal experience) on the following
options?

1. Sonnet Presto LC
68040 processor; max RAM 10 MB
$249

2. MicroMac Speedster 040
68040 50/25 MHz processor; max RAM 10 MB
$249 (or was it $299?)

3. MicroMac ThunderCachePro
68030 50 MHz/ 50 MHz FPU
32 KB cache
32-bit wide data path
max RAM 26 MB
$299

I need overall speed improvement, but the applications I use the most are:
WordPerfect 3.0a (with my present configuration the equation editor, and
the figures and equations display and redraw are painfully slow), Excel 5.0
and FileMaker Pro 2.0. For connecting to Internet: Netscape 2.0, Eudora
1.5.1 and Anarchie 2.0.1.

TIA

Oscar Chavez Ciudad de Mexico


Subject: Q:New Science Project.. Mac TV --> LC 550 or 75?
From: GS4Sale
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:22:01 -0500 (EST)
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

I sold a couple of PPC 7100s to a client and was able to aquire a couple
of Mac TVs as part of the deal (yes, I know they are outdated, but they
look cool and I needed a TV in the computer room). After getting 1 to
work, I started thinking. According to the Service Source, the parts in a
Mac TV are similiar to the LC 520/550/575.
My question has two parts:

A. Could I swap the Logic Board of the Mac TV with the logic board of a
LC 520/550/575?

B. If yes, can the existing Mac TV tuner be used with the LC logic board?

I know that the back panel of the Mac Tv would require some adjustments,
but since I have never seen the inside of a LC 520/50/75, I don't know if
the LC logic board has a slot for the MacTV tuner. However, since apple
does make logic boards with features that are not used (e.g. the 8500 rom
slot), I thought it would be worth asking.

According to my Service Source, there are a few similar parts inside the
MacTV and the LCs.

Can anyone answer this question?

Thanks in advance.

Seth Rosner

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