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Re: Networking with 7.6
Good Internet Apps
Q2: What It Is, Where It Goes
Classic Mac Hotline Site
Global Village TelePort Platinum Advice
More GV TelePort Platinum Advice
Re: Global Village Teleport Platinum
RealAudio for Older Systems?
Workaround for Jag's Page: IBM
Programmer's Switch
The Year 2000 is Not a Problem
Communications Toolbox Files...
128K Floppy Drive Woes
Auto-rebuilding IIvx Desktop
RE: Thompson's SE/30 Video Problems
1:1 vs. 3:1 HD Interleaving
Mac Plus HD Interleaving
Starting with blank page in MacWeb 2.0
Blank Page Suggestions, MacWeb 2.0
MacWeb Home Page "Feature"
Old MacPaint Images
Re: Old MacPaint Images
400K Floppy Drive; Communications Toolbox


Subject: Re: Networking With 7.6
Sent: 4/2/97 7:51 PM
From: ehintz
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

to get a 7.6 machine on an Appletalk network without screwing up Open
Transport (other than begging Apple to add that functionality to the next
release)?

Huh? Start with OT 1.1.2. Turn on AppleTalk in the chooser, go to
the appletalk control panel, select "printer port". Done. Works great
with a Duo 230 (7.6.1), Quadra 800 (7.6), and SE(7.1). Both the Duo and
SE have PPP conections via dial up(MacPPP and MacSLIP respectively), and
the Quadra has a full time ethernet(with a *beta* of LocalTalk Bridge).
As far as I can tell the functionality is already there.

Peace,
Edmund A. "Eddie" Hintz
Web page: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ehintz


Subject: Good Internet Apps
Sent: 4/3/97 9:10 AM
From: Sascha Welter
To: Classic Post

T.J.

For decoding files taken from the web, newsgroups, etc.. I keep the
following apps on my hard drive and one of them is bound to decode
whatever I need to:

BinHex (makes & extracts .hqx files)
Shrinkwrap (makes & mounts disk images)
Stuffit Expander (automatically decodes files)
ZipIt (zips stuff for use on a PC)
UUencode (never needed this one, decodes uu encoded files I think)

And then there should be Mpack 1.5 on the list to get Base64 and MIME
add ons out of your mail if your mail-program is not MIME-Capable.

The Doks say it is working with System 6 and there is no restriction on
68000 reported - so it should work on the old bunch too (though I did
not test run it on the SE).

Regards, Sascha


Subject: Q2: What It Is, Where It Goes
Sent: 4/3/97 8:45 AM
From: George Crane
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Stughead, the oaf asked:

Anyone out there have a schematic for an SE/30 motherboard?...
I need to know the specs for transistor Q2.

Well, according to our good friend, Larry Pina, whose books all of you
should have so as to eliminate the need for these questions, the Q2 on the
analog board is OEM P/N BU 406. Good replacement would be RCA SK 9085.
Then again, If you're referring to the logic board as the motherboard and
there is a Q2 on it, this advice is null and void.

george
http://www2.gol.com/users/mudshark/


Subject: Classic Mac Hotline Site
Sent: 4/3/97 8:12 PM
From: Mr. Tripp Frasch
To: Classic Posts

I have set up a Hotline Server for classic mac evangelism with a files
section for old 68k software including those old versions of system
software! For those of you who have not heard of Hotline, it is a cool
new Mac based GUI TCP/IP based BBS system. Check out
<http://macline.fwparker.org/> for more information and to downolad the
client!

Please stop by yknot.colgate.edu and check it out. My server resides on
a Mac IIvx running Sys. 7.5.5, OT1.1.2 with 12mb of RAM and a 500mb hard
drive connected to a T1 line. This machine also runs a web server, ftp
server, and file server! Hardly an obselete machine. :-)

Thanks for stopping by and I welcome any and all comments.
Tripp Frasch


Subject: Global Village TelePort Platinum Advice
Sent: 4/3/97 4:47 AM
From: Dick Johnson
To: classic-post@hitznet.com

Nathan wrote about problems connecting with his new modem.

I had similar problems connecting to my local ISP. After we all tried for
days to configure the rig, I solved the problem by wiring my modem directly
to the two connectors at the telephone junction box on my house. The phone
company had done a check on their wiring and had found nothing wrong. It
was the simplest of tasks and since then I have had no problems and
download at a consisten 28.8 speed. If your wire connections are poor, no
software adjustments will be any help.

Dick Johnson


Subject: More GV TelePort Platinum Advice
Sent: 4/4/97 12:45 PM
From: Dave Bogart
To: Classic Posts

On 4/3/97 1:35 AM, Nathan Marler wrote:

I have recently acquired a 28.8 Global Village Teleport Platinum modem for
my SE. I _thought_ that everything would be fab-o and I could simply set up
MacPPP and surf away, but I was wrong. Interestingly enough, it is not my
software that is giving me the trouble. The modem refuses to connect to
almost anything above 1200 bps, and obviously 1200 bps is rather
insufficient for my needs, and is absurd coming from a 28.8K modem!

<Snip>

I have contacted Global Village, and they say to return it,

If they're offering an exchange, I'd take them up on the offer.

but I honestly do not believe this to be
a hardware problem--it feels more like an init string problem, but I can't
vary it just right to achieve a solid connection (besides, I'm not a modem
god). I contacted various people who said that CompuServe (this and SpryNet
being used interchangeably, since they utilize the same sites) uses
aggressive MNP detection and that my init string in MacPPP should only be
"ATZ^M", but this doesn't help. Can anyone who is in a similar situation
(only a more successful one) offer me some advice on what to do before I
pack the thing away to Global Village?

For my ISP, I used AT&F1W1S95=44 when I was in FreePPP2.5v2, or MacPPP.
This was also Global Village's recommendation. I now use OT/PPP and just
accept the Global Village Platinum/Gold II modem choice. I don't know
what init it uses. You can also use the GV 28.8/33.6 for ARA 2.1 OT/PPP
choice, if your Platinum runs at 33.6.

For Compuserve, I use MacNavigator (not Netscape) and the setting is: &F
&D2 &K4 S95=44. I get a connect speed of about 38400 with this setup.

Good luck!
Dave


Subject: Re: Global Village Teleport Platinum
Sent: 4/3/97 2:36 AM
From: Bo Schnick
To: classic-post

From nmesoft
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 04:52:03 (MST)
From: "Nathan Marler"
To: Classic Posts
Subject: Global Village Teleport Platinum

8< -cut,cut--------

-it feels more like an init string problem, but I can't
vary it just right to achieve a solid connection (besides, I'm not a modem
god). I contacted various people who said that CompuServe (this and SpryNet
being used interchangeably, since they utilize the same sites) uses
aggressive MNP detection and that my init string in MacPPP should only be
"ATZ^M", but this doesn't help.

The following is not from a modem god.
I have used the following init strings with the Global Village Teleport
Platinum with success with a Classic using MacTCP and MacPPP2.0.1:
either,
AT&F1W1S95=44%C0 or AT&F1%C1&K3

Bo Schnick


Subject: RealAudio for Older Systems?
Sent: 4/3/97 9:48 AM
From: LARRY.KOLLAR
To: classic-post

I don't give a rip for Java, JavaScript, ActiveX, etc. etc. etc... but I'd
like to mess with RealAudio. Unfortunately, their web site says "040 or
PowerMac only" for version 3.0. Does anyone know if the older versions
work OK with our classics? Or do the older versions work with the audio
available on the net now?

Thanks!
Larry.Kollar


Subject: Workaround for Jag's Page: IBM
Sent: 4/2/97 7:05 PM
From: Nathan Marler
To: classic-post

Hello all,

I hate to be the invasive Windoze dork here, but just for
you people who, like me, have to surf with a Windoze to
get your Mac internet files, here's some good news: I
found a workaround to allow you to use the files off of
Jag's homepage. To do this:

1) Download the files. Get them onto your Mac via an
emulator program (such as ARDI's Executor) or through
PC Exchange/Apple File Exchange.

2) Use Snitch or a comparable utility to change the
file creator and file type to SIT! for both fields (the
file will come as TEXT and UNIX). Then, rename the file
to xxxx.sit (with xxxx being just about anything, but
probably the original filename). Get rid of that mis-
leading .hqx.

3) Run either StuffIt Expander or StuffIt Lite to open
the renamed and re-typed file. It should now "see" the
contents.

The combination of the .hqx and the wrong file type/
creator causes StuffIt programs to fail. If there were
any recommendations that I would make to Jag, it would
be to remove the incorrect .hqx file extension, since
it tends to fool many applications into believing that
the file is a true .hqx. Leave the files as .SIT's, and
you'll be okay from any platform. I'd like to commend
Jag for putting such an awesome collection of files on
the 'net--they are programs that are really hard to find
on your own, and the functionality they lend is incred-
ible. Thanks again, Jag.

Hope this helps,
Nathan Marler


Subject: Programmer's Switch
Sent: 4/3/97 8:45 AM
From: George Crane
To: classic-post

David Rinsveldt asked:

Probably everyone knows that you can add two buttons on the side of the Mac
on a "hidden" plug, on the left. The first button reboots the Mac, but the
second one makes a small window appairs with just ">". I never found
anything in any book about what it could serve or how use it.

It's called the programmer's switch or more succinctly the de-bugger switch
and can be used to display various ROM code and other esoteric stuff.I'm
not sure, but I think you can you use MacBugs to fool around in this area
and unscramble logical knots. I personally don't know enough to muck with
it, but would be interested in learning more myself.

george
http://www2.gol.com/users/mudshark/


Subject: The Year 2000 is Not a Problem
Sent: 4/4/97 3:30 PM
From: D. Scott Williamson
To: Apple Evangelist

4-4-1997 Reuters Limited.
Experts Call Year 2000 Bug A Real Threat

By Chris Romans

CHICAGO - A few years ago, Geneva Belford's mother-in-law suddenly had
problems getting her insurance company to pay for her prescriptions.

As it turned out, the woman, born in 1897, was listed in the insurance company's
computers as having been born in 1997 because the software allowed only two
numbers for the date field. In effect, the computer listed her as
unborn.

But one mother-in-law's problems are about to pale in comparison with things to come.
Information technology experts warn of a world rife with such annoyances -- and much
worse -- when 1999 rolls into 2000. Imagine Social Security checks uncut, veterans
benefits on hold, telephones and electric service turned off for payments being 100
years "in arrears," and worse.

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Due to the length of the article, this was snipped for
brevity.]

Please note that this warning does not apply to those _foolish enough_
to have purchased any Apple Macintosh product from 1984 to the present...:-)

Scott Williamson
Cape Cod, MA


Subject: Communications Toolbox Files...
Sent: 4/3/97 5:48 PM
From: B.J. Major & Dennis J. Gorin
To: classic-post

In response to:

Could someone please explain to me what this "communications toolbox" is?
It keeps turning up in old System folders on Sys6 startup floppies. Is it
related to these other seemingly-unneeded things I have sitting around,
which have names like "Serial Tool", "Apple Modem Tool", and "ZModem
Tool"?

I can't tell you what the Comm Toolbox does, but I CAN tell you that if you
use a modem to dial into mainframe computer systems with a terminal
emulation mode, you definitely need serial tool, Z (or X)modem tool, VT100
tool, and some of the others. Of course, if you don't have use a terminal
emulation mode for any of your connecting purposes, feel free to delete
them. Usually though, the program that you install also installs these
"tools" because it needs them for modem purposes. Our local MLS (real
estate) computer software installs these tools because they are a necessary
part of the program. Try to delete one of the tools and you will get a
message saying the application cannot be opened because that tool is
missing!

--bj


Subject: 128K Floppy Drive Woes
Sent: 4/4/97 4:57 PM
From: George Crane
To: classic-post

Tim_Lambdin wrote:

Greetings, I have a 128k Mac and an external 400k floppy. My
problem is when I connect this drive the internal constantly
whirrs like it is trying to access the disk. It was suggested
that I check the internal floppy cable ...

Those drives were notrious for various troubles. I have had similar
problems, but there was no relation to cables. In one case, the drive
motor was stuffed and in another, the drive had sat unused so long that the
grease had hardened up and nothing would move under normal conditions. So,
the first course of action would be disaasembly and a thorough cleaning and
lube.

george
http://www2.gol.com/users/mudshark/


Subject: Auto-rebuilding IIvx Desktop
Sent: 4/3/97 2:59 AM
From: T.J.
To: Classic Posts

I have a question. My Mac IIvx lately has began to automatically rebuild
the desktop when I start the machine. I ran TechTool and it said their are
no problems, I also ran a virus program that said there's nothing wrong.

Any ideas?.. Thanks.

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: T.J., I've found that when any program modifies some
part of the System file, my SE is immediately triggered to rebuild the
desktop upon the next startup. This occurs, too, if I boot from an earlier
system disk (like 6.0.5) and then reboot back in 7.0.1. It could be that
some program that you recently acquired makes direct modifications to some
important part of the System file.]

T.J. Patterson
http://www.primenet.com/~monoply/credit.html


Subject: RE: Thompson's SE/30 Video Problems
Sent: 4/3/97 5:36 PM
From: STUGHEAD
To: classic-post

DO NOT go into that SE/30 with a scredriver. The machine needs to be
powered up to adjust the screen, and that analog board has high voltage. Use
plastic TV adjuster tools. And Larry Pina's books give detailed instructions,
with a particular order, to make the process simple. Try Mac Classic and SE
Repairs and Upgrade Secrets (covers SE/30) which is smaller (less $$$, too) than
The Dead Mac Scrolls. Peachpit Press, (800) 283-9444.

Brian Scarborough


Subject: 1:1 vs. 3:1 HD Interleaving
Sent: 4/4/97 12:45 PM
From: Dave Bogart
To: Classic Posts

On 4/3/97 1:35 AM, Robert Eye wrote:

Does anyone out there have any DEFINITE answers on this? Are 1:1 Quantum
drives the only 1:1 interleave drives that will work on a Plus?

As I understood it, the 3:1 interleave vs 1:1 option was a performance
issue; slower Macs could not keep up with 1:1 interleaving, so the CPU
had to waste HD RPMs reading information. It would run in either setting,
but you'd be getting worse performance.

Dave


Subject: Mac Plus HD Interleaving
Sent: 4/3/97 10:31 AM
From: Mike Friese
To: classic-post

I have read in several places, including this list, that any HD attached to a
Mac Plus MUST be set for an interleave of 3:1, or it won't work (especially as
a boot disk).

...

Does anyone out there have any DEFINITE answers on this? Are 1:1 Quantum
drives the only 1:1 interleave drives that will work on a Plus?

The interleave is the distance between subsequent sectors in a disk. 1:1
has each logical sector adjacent to each other. 1:3 skips two sectors
between each read sector. The reason for this is to give the Mac Plus
time to move the data from the drive to memory. If you hook up a 1:1
drive to a Plus, it will certainly work but it will be slow. The reason
for this is the Plus is not fast enough to read sector after sector
without a delay, so the by the time the Plus gets around to reading a
second sector, the data has passed the head. You then have to wait for a
whole rotation to get your data.

On disk drives from the Plus' era, this would mean that it would take you
about 18 disk rotations to pick up a track of data instead of only 3 at a
1:3 interleave.

Big Exception: If you are using a disk drive with an internal cache, you
still want 1:1 interleave because the cache will provide the time
buffering.

Mike Friese


Subject: Starting with blank page in MacWeb 2.0
Sent: 4/3/97 8:54 PM
From: Christopher Adams
To: classic-post

LARRY.KOLLAR wrote:

BUT... MacWeb wouldn't let me change a few preferences. I want it to
start up with a blank page like Netscape, for example, but it wouldn't
let me do that.

Larry,

My MacWeb 2.0 starts with a blank page every time. This pref is controlled
by Internet Config. If you go to MacWeb's 'General' prefs and click on the
underlined words "Home URL", IC launches and you can delete whatever URL is
in the 'WWW Home Page' field and leave it blank. Thereafter, you should get
a blank page when you launch MacWeb.

Chris Adams
The Mac SE Support Pages
http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/


Subject: Blank Page Suggestions, MacWeb 2.0
Sent: 4/3/97 5:42 AM
From: David Buchner
To: Classic Posts

From: LARRY.KOLLAR

[snip]

Anyway, I got MacWeb unpacked & run it off the Jaz drive last night,
testing it on my own Web pages. Looks good, but maybe a little
pokier than Netscape(!) when laying out a page for the first time. A
small price to pay for a browser that supports tables but thumbs its
nose at frames and JavaScript. :-)

Right ON! Hallelujah! Glad to see others willing to say it.

BUT... MacWeb wouldn't let me change a few preferences. I want it to
start up with a blank page like Netscape, for example, but it wouldn't
let me do that. Is this a "feature," or did I do something wrong? If
it's a feature, it's still a small price to pay etc.; I can always hit
the Stop button first thing.

Try making a small .html file on your HD, opening it with MacWeb, copying
the URL, then pasting that into its default homepage setting so it always
starts up with THAT file (as long as you don't move it). Small, local pages
open faster. I use this to always have a few links handy right away, like I
included the code for the basic AltaVista search form (without any of the
ads or unneeded features).

David Buchner


Subject: MacWeb home page "feature"
Sent: 4/3/97 11:57 AM
From: Michelle Klein-Hass
To: classic-post

Anyway, I got MacWeb unpacked & run it off the Jaz drive last night,
testing it on my own Web pages. Looks good, but maybe a little
pokier than Netscape(!) when laying out a page for the first time. A
small price to pay for a browser that supports tables but thumbs its
nose at frames and JavaScript. :-) I'll be moving Netscape onto the
Jaz & MacWeb onto the hard drive.

BUT... MacWeb wouldn't let me change a few preferences. I want it to
start up with a blank page like Netscape, for example, but it wouldn't
let me do that. Is this a "feature," or did I do something wrong? If
it's a feature, it's still a small price to pay etc.; I can always hit
the Stop button first thing.

Tradewave really ought to loosen up distribution of MacWeb; it's pretty
close to ideal.

What you need to do is set up a "Home Page" on your hard disk. You have
Internet Config on your system to set MacWeb's preferences, right? OK.

Take all your bookmarks and make yourself a simple HTML page with an
Unordered List of all those bookmarks. Call the page "mypage.html" and put
it in your root folder.

Set MacWeb's homepage to file:///mypage.html/ and off you go. You have to
wait until your page loads but if it's just text it's easy and quick.

The other cool thing about this is that you can set your bookmark page as
the home page for all your other browsers too...any changes in bookmarks
will be accessible by every browser you have.

Tradewave needs to either fix the long parsing and paginating time (it's
doable, Nutscrape is notoriously fast doing both) or release the code for
ambitious Mac hackers to improve their code and at least let it see
animated .GIFs. (I could give a crap about frames)

Take care,
--.\\<-H--

Michelle Klein-Hass:
Web Goddess/Animation Nerd/Troublemaker


Subject: Old MacPaint Images
Sent: 4/3/97 8:45 AM
From: George Crane
To: classic-post

Raul asked: For almost a year now I've been looking for the MacPaint
images that came with the original 128K Mac- they include a picture of a
sneaker, a Japanese woodblock of a woman combing her hair, and fish
(those are the ones I remember).

I used to have a drawing program with the Japanese woman label but it was
not MacDraw. The name escapes me now (and the actual disk is long gone)
but the one I had was a special drawing program for doing calligraphy.

george
http://www2.gol.com/users/mudshark/


Subject: Re: Old MacPaint Images
Sent: 4/3/97 12:47 PM
From: Raul Gutierrez
To: classic-post

For almost a year now I've been looking for the MacPaint
images that came with the original 128K Mac- they include a picture of a
sneaker and a Japanese woodblock of a woman combing her hair(those
are the ones I remember).

I used to have a drawing program with the Japanese woman label but it was
not McDraw. The name escapes me now (and the actual disk is long gone) but
the one I had was a special drawing program for doing calligraphy.

george

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: See the post earlier in the Digest that pertains to this.]

The images were definately MacPaint files. They came with the 400K
MacPaint disks that shipped with the 128K Mac. The picture of the
Japanese woman was featured on the cover of issue #1 of Macworld. And the
tennis shoe image was used by Chiat/Day in an advertisement.

As I said before, I've looked high and low for them to no avail. I've
even asked the artist, Susan Kare, who created them (along with much of
the rest of the Mac interface. She's the one who created the cursor you're
looking at right now). Sadly she too has lost the images (she did give me
some other vintage goodies though).

Raul


Subject: 400K Floppy Drive; Communications Toolbox
Sent: 4/3/97 3:08 AM
From: Jones, Paul B
To: Classic Posts

From: "Lambdin, Tim"
To: "'classic-post
Subject: 128K and an External 400K Floppy Drive.
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:15:05 -0700

Greetings,

I have a 128k Mac and an external 400k floppy. My problem is when I
connect this drive the internal constantly whirrs like it is trying to
access the disk. It was suggested that I check the internal floppy cable
to make sure it has a yellow stripe. It does. When I substituted one
with a red stripe matters are far worse. Is my yellow stripe cable bad?
Or do I need some sort of system init? There was some referrence to this
on the web, but it did not mention a file name. Any suggestions?

The switch at the front of the Floppy drive may be stuck down, telling
the drive that it still has a floppy in it. The switches are very small
and you should be able to press it down with a toothpick to see if they
work, the second switch is for the Write Protect feature.

PBJ

To: classic-post
From: David Buchner
Subject: What is this 'Communications Toolbox'?
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:42:36 +0000

Could someone please explain to me what this "communications toolbox" is?
It keeps turning up in old System folders on Sys6 startup floppies. Is it
related to these other seemingly-unneeded things I have sitting around,
which have names like "Serial Tool", "Apple Modem Tool", and "ZModem Tool"?

It is a feature built into later systems to enable you to add
communications related tools for use across the system. ClarisWorks can
use them and so can several other apps. If you don't need 'em chuck them
out.

PBJ

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