Table of Contents for this issue:
Caps Lock sounds on Powerbook 180?
Re: PPP for 68000 Macs
Re: Graphical Chess Game for Mac SE?
MacJam97
Upgrading 7.1 to 7.6?
More Specs on System 7.6
Re: MacWeb 2.0 on an SE?
Modem Speed for Classic II?
Re: How to Remove SE/30 Internal HD
More SE/30 Internal HD Advice
Performa 550 Upgrade?
Where to find Claris Resolve?
Where to Go for 7.6 Requirement Information
Telling the Difference Between 512K and 512Ke?
FreePPP and the SE--Help!?
LC II Noise from Speaker?
Locked out by DiskLock?
Re: 7.1 on 800K Disks
System 7.5.1 Startup Disk: Quadra 630?
Re: Mac IIvx Boot Problem =(
Also Re: Mac IIvx Boot Problem =(
Mirror Monitors: A Dim Outlook?
SE Support--Thanks!

I have a Powerbook 180 running System 7.5.3.
Even tho I have disabled the Caps Lock Control Panel, I still get a sound
playing when I press the Caps Lock key. Is this now built into the
System, or do I have to disable something else somewhere.
I don't have SndControl installed. The alert sound selected in the Sound
CP is different than what I get with the Caps Lock key.
Any thoughts?

Dave Bogart

Recently I wrote:

In 68000-mac-faq http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/68000.txt

I say that only MacPPP 2.0.1 and InterSLIP 1.0.1 currently work on 68000
macs.

If you have experience of other PPP variants with newer Systems please
send me a note how you succeeded so I can update the faq.

After my post I unsuccesfully tried the following SW on a PB100, System 7.0.1*:

Sonic PPP (on PB100 opens the connection OK but soon crashes the mac):
ftp://ftp.sonicsys.com//pub/updates/SonicPPP/SonicPPP_1.2_Installer.hqx

Commercial tcpCONNECT4 PPP (formerly InterPPP II) supports PPP and SLIP, it
requires at least System 7 (v2.0.1 doesn't work on a PB100):
http://www.intercon.com/products/interppp2.html

LinkUPPP! (formerly FCRppp) supports PPP and SLIP (v1.1r1 doesn't work on a PB100):
http://www.fcr.com/LinkUPPP/LinkUPPP.html

I got a note that MacSLIP 2.0.3 works. Also MacPPP 2.0.1 variants
v2.0.1cm4, v2.1.1SD and v2.1.2SD work so the updated FAQ concerning PPP is
as follows:

Only MacPPP 2.0.1, MacSLIP 2.0.3 and InterSLIP 1.0.1 currently work on
68000 macs (SimplePPP might work but I haven't tried it). MacPPP 2.0.1cm4
and v2.1.2SD are enhanced versions of MacPPP 2.0.1; 2.0.1cm4 enables
background dialing, for instance - MacPPP 2.1.2SD has enhancements like:
fixes problem with Config PPP not being able to access it's prefs file if
the Finder closed the control panel on a low memory error, terminal window
is larger and scrolling of text off the top is a little cleaner, shows the
115K and 230K rates in the Port Speed popup (and has 4800 as a slowest port
speed vs 1200 on other MacPPP 2.0.1 variations). (Note that MacPPP 2.0.1
variations fail to redraw the PPP "up" symbols on screen (after the 1st
connection; no reboot between connections) unless you cover and uncover
them with other windows).

http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/68000.txt
http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/mac-internet-faq.txt

thanks for everybody who contributed,

Matti Haveri
http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/

I am looking for a chess game which actually uses a board (not the
notation-type software) for my brother-in-law's Mac SE it has 4MB of RAM
and I was mostly thinking PD or shareware...

Hi Bill!

There is a version of GNU-Chess which works on my fathers SE (1.5Meg
Ram, System 6.07) so it should work on your brother-in-law's Mac SE too.

The graphics are not so nice as in MacChess, but MacChess wants the 030 :(
And mind you, GNU-Chess is pretty tough! :o)

Version 4.0 is in the Info-Mac-Archive in game/brd/gnu-chess-mac-40.hqx

Though right now I see that I tryed out version 3.0 ... hopefully 4.0
will work on the SE as well ...

Regards,

Sascha
http://www.access.ch/private-users/swelter/

Dog, Business, QTVR and more ... in english ... und auf Deutsch

Just thought any Classic Post reader in Vermont, or adjacent parts of New
York and New Hampshire might be interested in the following:

Finally, MacChamp, the Burlington, Vermont, Macintosh User Group, NVMUG,
(Northern Vermont Macintosh User Group) the Saint Johnsbury Macintosh User
Group, and the Central Vermont Macintosh User Group, from Montpelier, have
the web site for MacJam97! MacJam97 is the Northern Vermont Macintosh User
Group Joint meeting scheduled for June 28, 1997 at the Montpelier High
School. For details visit the site listed in the bottom of the signature
line of this message. It will be a great time for all who are intersted in
the Macintosh platform. Mark your calendars.

We invite all interested parties to attend.

Geof Gonter

http://www.sover.net/~gm7234/macintosh.html
"MACJAM97" - The 1997 Vermont Macintosh User Group Joint Meeting -
http://homepages.together.net/~ggonter

Hello fellow mac'sters

I have a iici with system 7.1. I want to upgrade it to 7.6. My
question is, if I buy 7.6 will it be able to upgrade 7.1, or do I have
to buy 7.5, and then buy 7.6?

Thanks for your answers:
Alan Nuzum

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Alan: If your IIci is 32-bit clean, has 8MB of RAM
(minimum--16's better), and at least a 68030, then you can upgrade it to 7.6
by buying the _full_version_ of 7.6. The "upgrade" version, which installs
on top of, rather than completely, will most probably only work on 7.5
machines.]

Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:35:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Manuel Mejia
Subject: Re: System 7.6 Computer Usage

I have been told that System 7.6 will only work 68040 and powermacs only.
System 7.5 and daughters were the last upgrades that are useful for
68000, 68020, and 68030 based machines. I got this information from an Mac
lab overseer.

Manuel Mejia, Jr.
Tampa, FLA.

this is from MacOS 7.6 manual

System requirements

The following can install Mac OS 7.6:
computers with Power PC(tm) microprocessors
computers 68040 microprocessors
computers with "32-bit clean" 68030 microprocessors. All
computers with 68030 microprocessors are 32-bit clean except
the Macintosh SE/30, Macintosh IIx, and the Macintosh IIcx.

In addition, to install Mac OS 7.6, a computer must have a least 8MB of
RAM. If your computer has less than 16MB of bulit-in RAM, you must use
Virtual memory.(Mac OS automatically turns on virtual memory when you
install it.)

hope this helps
Abraham Gutierrez
http://www.macconnect.com/~abraham

I would like to up-grade to MacWeb 2.0 from MacWeb 1.00A 3.2 but cannot
seem to locate a copy. Anyone know where I can find it?
Is there any reason MW 2.0 cannot be used on my SE, 8mb ram with an 030
accelerator?? sys 7.1.

It should run OK. There's a URL for it here...

http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/macweb.html

... with some discussion of its advantages and drawbacks.

Chris Adams.
The Mac SE Support Pages: http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/

I am running Classic 2 4/40 with 14.4 modem. When I set connection speed
on PPP above 19200 it will not make connection, yet at 19200 it works
perfectly. Is there some restraint to connection speeds for Classic 2?

Kevin Jordan

Earl Williams wrote:

Any tips on removing the internal hard drive from an SE/30 (I'm replacing
the 40Mb with a 80Mb) would be much appreciated. Do I really have to
disconnect and remoe the entire analog board in order to get screwdriver
access to the inboard screw (that holds the drive in the mounting
bracket)? Or am I going about this all wrong?

You are going about it wrong.
the analog board stays.
There is a screw or clip or whatever
that holds the disk carrier to the floppy drive.

Review the archives of this lists for how to replace an SE HD.
Same procedure for an SE/30.

Bruce

In a message dated 4/18/97 12:51:18 AM, you wrote:

Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:38:57 -0700
From: Earl Williams
Subject: How to Remove SE/30 Internal HD?

Any tips on removing the internal hard drive from an SE/30 (I'm replacing
the 40Mb with a 80Mb) would be much appreciated. Do I really have to
disconnect and remoe the entire analog board in order to get screwdriver
access to the inboard screw (that holds the drive in the mounting
bracket)? Or am I going about this all wrong?

Thanks,
Earl Williams

Assuming you have already got into the case:

1. Unplug the floppy drive, SCSI cable and power supply cable from the mother
board (the bottom board) I find it easier to unplug the power cable from the
analog board, find the plug latch that you need to squeeze to release the
plug.

2. Slide the mother board to the rear. There should be slots to allow it to
drop down. Unplug the speaker plug from the mother board and the power cable
if you did not do it in (1).

3. There should be four screws underneath that allow you to remove the hard
drive and floppy in one assembly.

4. Reverse the above. You might want to check the battery voltage while you
have the mother board out. Note, you will loose PRAM settings if the battery
is removed from the board.

Good Luck, watch out for static etc.
David Tyler

I was just wondering if anybody has heard about the Performa 550 PowerPC
upgrade kit that Apple was going to offer for $599 because of the FTC
ruling. I have a Performa 550 but have not heard from Apple.

I was just wondering because I got a info and a rebate form fot the
Computer Monitor Cases by snail mail.

Thanks
Abraham Gutierrez
http://www.macconnect.com/~abraham

Do any "Classic Gurus" out there know where I can buy a copy of "Claris
Resolve"?

I need a stand-alone spreadsheet (I know I could get Clarisworks, But I
already have MacWrite Pro, and FileMaker Pro) and I could buy "Excell" but I
refuse to support MicroSoft with their "windoze" interface.

Sadly, I have sent over 10 seperate E-Mail messages to Claris Corporation,
but no one ever replies. (...and I still love their software)

I know this is a discontinued product, but it would work seamlessly with my
existing applications (including MacProject Pro). ...'anyone out there know
where it can be found?

Ken Ballard

Not quite. Check Apple's web site for the OS at

http://www.product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1997/q2/970107.pr.rel.macos76.html

for system requirements. You can use 7.6 on any 32 bit clean 68030 (meaning
a Mac IIci and up), but not on a SE/30, IIx or IIccx. All 68040's will run 7.6.
The 68030 series gets abandoned after 7.6.1. 68040's and PowerPC Macs will be
able to run 8.0 when it comes out this summer.

Regards,
Robert Eye

Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:35:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Manuel Mejia
Subject: Re: System 7.6 Computer Usage

I have been told that System 7.6 will only work 68040 and powermacs only.
System 7.5 and daughters were the last upgrades that are useful for
68000, 68020, and 68030 based machines. I got this information from an Mac
lab overseer.

Manuel Mejia, Jr.
Tampa, FLA.

Hi there,

I've got a Mac 512K (that's what it says on the back) with an internal 800K
floppy disc drive and an external 800K floppy disc drive.

What I was wondering was: is this really a 512K, or has it been upgraded to
a 512Ke? How can I tell?

Any thoughts received with thanks,

Rowland.

I'm using an SE (long live MACS!)

I have FreePPP 1.0.1 I've configured it and reconfigured it a dozen times
and keep getting a system error messge. I believe the full message is
"Finder" address error.

I have system 7.1 if this helps any.

Thank you for your help.
Kamal Larsuel

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sorry, Kamal, but absolutely no version of FreePPP will
work on your Classic Mac, because it wants a 68020 processor. So chuck
that. If you wish, I can send you the PPP stuff that I use, MacPPP 2.1.2sd.
This works great on my SE with a minimum of tinkering. If you'd like it,
e-mail me at this address and ask for it; I'll send it as an attachment.]

Aloha

A friend recently took her LCII in to a repair shop because it was
making noises. The noises sometimes at start up would slowly climb in
pitch and volume, until almost unbearable...There diagnoses was a bad
HD....so she sent my the Mac to replace the HD. When I got it I noticed
that the noise was coming from her speaker! The monitor always started up
in B & W ( yep, dead battery ). I later was told that for the 2+ years she
had it,the monitor was always in B & W. I loaded up Techtool, I put in a
new battery and zapped the pram over and over, the sound would go away, and
then slowly comeback again...

I also noticed that the date of manufacture, normally shown in Techtool,
was showing nothing.

The LCII has not been used that much and we would like to get it working
properly again... There appears to be nothing else wrong except the noise.
I have thought about just unpluuging the speaker. I figure if there is
that much noise coming out of the speaker something else might be happening
to.

Anybody have any ideas what is going on and how to fix it other than
motherboard swap for aprox. $150.

Eagerly awaiting a solution....

Thank you
Steve

I've got a lovely old Portable, 9Mb RAM, 160Mb HD which I've not used for
several years. Unfortunately, I've forgotten the password for the old
DiskLock which is on it.

I tried creating a separate system disk with Primer HDT on it. While the
machine will boot from it, I get System Error 41 and "restart." It just
keeps repeating.

Anyone have any other solution to accessing the HD to get rid of the DL
program?

E. Barnes

Mike,

You can't get 7.1 as a download; Apple stil charges for it.

You can get it on 800k disks form Sun Remarketing (http://www.sunrem.com).

They don't list it on their web site (use the web site to get their phone
number), but they do have it in their catalog. They want $35 for disks, either
800k or 1.4 MB, but no manuals. I bought 7.1 on 800k disks from them for my
Plus last year and it works fine.

Regards,
Robert Eye

From: Manpower
Subject: 7.1 on 800K disks?

Dear Classic Mac:

We have a freshly refurbished 4 Mb Mac Plus that we want to use for email
and newsgroups. Can we download System 7.1 in some form that can easily be
transferred to 800K floppies? I know several people are running System 7.x
on these older machines, but I'm not up to speed on disk images and so forth
- please enlighten me!

BTW I already have the suggested software list for older Macs that appears
here regularly.

aTdHvAaNnKcSe

Mike McNeil

Greetings all:

I have a Quadra 630 running system 7.5.1 and want to make a startup
disk so I can run Nortons' Speed Disk. Unfortunately my system disks have
flown the coop and when Norton's disk builder asks for Disk Tools I'm
sunk. Any suggestions?

Joe Sukle

T.J.,

The IIvx also needs System Enabler 001, which is at version 1.0.1. You can
download it from one of Apple's *many* ftp sites, under the subdirectory (once
you are in the ftp://ftpx.info.apple.com, where x=1-9 or no character):

/AppleSupportArea/Apple_SW_Updates/US/Macintosh/System/System_Enablers/

Uncompress the System Enabler and put it onto the disk tools disk (there
should be room on the diskette).

It could also be that the system install on the external drive is missing
something else to be able to boot your IIvx, but the enabler is an excellent
starting place. My guess is that you never put it on your disk tools disk.
All the enablers also come on disk #2 of System_Update_3.0, which you should
run after you install 7.1. It is also available on Apple's ftp sites, under
the following path:

/AppleSupportArea/Apple_SW_Updates/US/Macintosh/System/Older_System/For_System_7.1.x/

Make sure you get the 1.4MB disk images file.

Regards,
Robert Eye

From: T.J.
Subject: Mac IIvx Boot Problem =(

I am having a problem with my old Mac IIvx. I tried to clean off and
format the hard drive. Now.. when I tried to boot from the System 7.1 disk
tools or install disk it says that version 7.1 won't work with this model
of a Mac? It was running system 7.1 before though?

I even hooked up a good working spare hard drive with system 7.1 that I
used to use with an SE/30, and I get the same message.

Is there some additional startup disk I need to boot the IIvx, so I can
re-install the system 7.1? Thanks for any help =)

T.J. Patterson
http://www.primenet.com/~monoply/credit.html

On 4/22/97 12:31 AM, monoply thus spake:

I am having a problem with my old Mac IIvx. I tried to clean off and
format the hard drive. Now.. when I tried to boot from the System 7.1 disk
tools or install disk it says that version 7.1 won't work with this model
of a Mac? It was running system 7.1 before though?

Probably doesn't have System Enabler 001, which the IIvx needs.
Check out the apple SW site, directory path :
AppleSWUpdates:US:Macintosh:System:SystemEnablers

Peace,

Edmund A. Hintz
Web page: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ehintz

A while back I set my mother-in-law up with an SE/30 and a Mirror
full-page monitor -- if you recall they made the highest rated (and at
times the _only_) external monitor for the compact Macs.

Well, the monitor is starting to dim. I'm not sure if that's a CRT
problem (in which case I can't imagine that it's worth getting repaired)
or something else, but I can't find a place to get it repaired. Mirror's
out of business, the company that took over its assets seems to be out of
business, and that's as far as I can track the situation.

Any ideas?

Best,
Steven M. Alper
http://www.bway.net/~alper

Hi,

Thanks to all the people who helped me with my search for MacWeb 2.0...
In the replies I found Christopher Adams in the UK who offers SE support,
three versions of MacWeb, and auxiliary programs for downloading.
http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/macweb.html

John