Table of Contents for this issue:
Mass Micro Quick Image 24--Serious Hardware
Installing 6.0.8 from a PC to an SE?
Mac TV on the Net
Software for MacVision?
Interleave and Accelerators?
Mac & External CD-ROM
Progress on the Mac Lynx Port
Lynx on the Macintosh
Re: Lynx Browser
Mac Fonts on Windows
Re: Mac Fonts on Windows
Solution for Mac Fonts on Windows
"Please insert Hard Disk?"
Re: UNIX on Classic Macs
Out of the U.S.: System Software Licenses
Great Source for Power Supplies: Dead Macs
PrintShop for Mac Plus?
Virtual Memory on LC?
Torx T-15
SE/30 & PPP?
Questions and Good News
Re: Minimum Configuration Mac
Upgrade Excel 1.5 to Work With System 7.0?

the card has four connectors in the back! none looks like it can accomodate a monitor. two appear to be adb ports, one looks like a serial port, and the fourth a co-axial ethernet?. all are circular plugs ?!?!

This sounds like it is one or all of a video capture/special effects/titling card. I would guess the two "ADB" ports are S-video and the "serial" port is a proprietary port for a connector which would go to 4 x RCA plugs for connection to regular video sources (audio in, CVBS in, audio out, CVBS out). The "ethernet" connector is probably CVBS out (to an external studio type monitor).

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

I am trying to get a Mac SE running for my parents. It doesn't have a hard drive but I'm planning to put one in and also upgrade the ram. The computer didn't come with any system software but I downloaded system 6.0.8 from Apple. The problem I'm having is that since I downloaded it using a pc I can't seem to use disk copy to transfer it to a 1.44 meg diskette and get the SE to start. Shrinkwrap also requires a Mac to use (I think). Is it possible to somehow transfer the system software to a floppy disk from a pc then install or start up my SE.

Thanks.

Allen Redmond
http://pwp.starnetinc.com/allen/redmond.htm
http://www.clearlight.com/midwestcomposites

Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:20:30 -0500
From: Kenneth Hackney
Subject: Minimum Configuration Mac

I have a MacTV which looks cool (it's black), but with it's 68030 CPU and 8
MEG RAM maximum capacity is sadly limited these days.

I'm going on the road with a travel trailer. I would like a Mac to take along,
but the MacTV is all I have that could go too. It runs an old system (6?)
and was never on the internet.

If I pull all unnecessary parts of the system and go with Eudora Lite will
it run? Can I run a primitive Netscape? I don't want to be isolated on
the road.

What system, and how big is the system file? I don't know. My daughter
has the machine in addition to her (ugh) Pentium PC, and I must corral her
and get it back to find out. I could always get a modem for it.

Somewhere there is an old disk from my ISP with Eudora Lite and Netscape
1.1. I would need an appropriate MacTCP and PPP. They probably are stored
away also. Should I bother?

Could a 68030 processor with 8 Meg RAM and a 160 Meg HD handle internet communications these days?

Regards,
Ken

Kenneth U. Hackney
Lubbock, Texas

My teenage daughter has used a Mac TV for several years. When she decided recently that she wanted Internet connection on it, rather than coming over to our studies to use the other Macintosh systems, I installed AT&T WorldNet software, with FreePPP Version 2.5.1 and Netscape 2.02, on the MacTV (System 7.5.3). Since I don't like Netscape 2.02 too much, I also installed Netscape 3.01. The first time she tried to access WWW, she got the expected "Not enough memory to run Netscape" message. A quick assignment of some virtual memory took care of that, and she has been happily surfing the Net ever since. I imagine that RAM Doubler will probably accomplish the same, but I think that virtual memory may cause fewer problems. As far as e-mail goes, AT&T WorldNet provides one account, and my University e-mail system (using SoftArc FirstClass software) runs well through the FreePPP setup. No problems at all.

Fabian Fang
Bakersfield, California

Hi all,

I recently acquired a Mac 512E and included in the package was a Koala MacVision video digitizer. It came with the original program disk for MacVision, but one or more of the files are damaged. (The installer balks and reports that the "RSRC xxx" could not be found.)

Does anyone have any info as to whether Koala is still in business or any other source for this software?

Thanks,
Will Schnabel

With all this talk about interleaves on HD's, I was wondering if anyone knew what I should set the interleave at on my two SE's... both accelerated by Micromat... one with a 16MHz '030 and the other with a 32MHz '030. I'd guess that these accererators don't accererate the databus (correct?) so the SCSI data transfer rate should be the same as a plain SE so I'd need an interleave of 2 right? Anyone?

I could just sit there reformatting with different interleaves and experiment but I have a lot of trouble with HD errors when I reformat .... but that's another post.

Thanks in advance,
-scott g

Re: your Classic Macs posting... (forgive me if this is a late response)

"I have noticed that my computer will not function if the CD-Rom is off."

What you are describing is a normal SCSI inconsistency. Generally you're ALWAYS supposed to turn on your external SCSI devices and let 'em finish coming up before you turn on your Mac.

Now, some devices will not pose a problem, and some will absolutely prevent your Mac from booting. Some of the same devices may also behave differently from Mac to Mac.

I have an external CD and external HD that can remain off and my Mac doesn't mind, but my scanner HAS to be on or the Mac refuses to boot. The rule of thumb is, turn SCSI stuff on, then the Mac. This is supposedly even more the case with PowerPC Macs...

Hope this helps!
Geoff Kaiser

Tripp Frasch writes:

Olivier Gutknecht recently reported that he was working on a MacOS port of Lynx. I think it will be out in a couple of weeks, but I am not sure what platforms it will run under.

Searching the lynx-dev archive, I found this:

Olivier's port is at Alpha4/5 right now. Both PowerPC and M68K versions are available. A public beta version is to be expected very soon

See http://www.flora.org/lynx-dev/html/month0597/msg00549.html for the full text. The message is dated May 10.

Looking forward to getting a-hold of that public beta!

Larry.Kollar

'lo all,

For all the latest information on ports of Lynx to other platforms and OSs, check out http://www.crl.com/~subir/lynx/platforms.html. There are planned ports to the MacOS and BeOS included here. Here's the current info on the MacOS Port.

"Olivier Gutknecht recently reported that he was working on a MacOS port of Lynx. The current MacLynx (as of May 10, 1997) is Alpha5 and both M68K and PowerPC binaries are available. A public beta will be available soon. The Alpha is very robust (I've been using it for over a week without experiencing any problems except for the lack of some functions that are not yet present)."

Andy

1. Olivier Gutknecht recently reported that he was working on a MacOS port of Lynx. I think it will be out in a couple of weeks, but I am not sure what platforms it will run under. IMHO, in the true spirit of Lynx, it should run on a 128k, but don't hold your breath!

On May 4, the MacInTouch web site posted the following blurb:

Olivier Gutknecht is porting the text-based Lynx web browser from Unix for 68K and PowerPC Macs. The beta test version should be available publicly about May 15.

Macintouch is at http://www.macintouch.com/. Olivier Gutknecht is at gutkneco

HTH,
John

Subject: Mac Fonts on Windows?
Date: Fri, 9 May 97 23:05:43 -0400
From: hilal

i am looking for windoze versions of the standard apple macintosh truetype fonts (geneva, chicago, new yorkk, monaco, etc...). i am forced to use a wintel box at the office, but i take my files home to work on my mac often. also, i really want to use chicago in my documents so that others know i worked on a mac. and i don't think i will be able to resist the temptation of using the little apples (option-shift-k) as bullet points in my presentations.... ;)

You can find Win TT versions of Geneva and Chicago in a Mac menu bar emulator program called "Winmac" available at:

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~thee/mac95/wmac302b.zip

Note: The author of the web page that is hosting this file says his page will be going down at the end of May so grab it quick!

Winmac is actually a pretty cool donation-ware program consisting of a functional menu bar that looks *exactly* like a System 7, or alternatively System 8 'Copland', Mac menu bar. It also allows you to change some of the desktop icons to Mac icons (Hard Drive and Trash Can), and offers plenty of tips on how to get your Wintel machine to look very similar to a Mac desktop. The author of Winmac no longer has his own site (that I am aware of) so if you're interested in making your Wintel's desktop look a little more like 'home', download it at the URL listed above soon, before it's gone.

Andy Skuse
http://execulink.com/~askuse/bgcross/
http://execulink.com/~askuse/ravengar.html

On Fri, 9 May 97, hilal wrote:

i am looking for windoze versions of the standard apple macintosh truetype fonts (geneva, chicago, new yorkk, monaco, etc...). i am forced to use a wintel box at the office, but i take my files home to work on my mac often. also, i really want to use chicago in my documents so that others know i worked on a mac. and i don't think i will be able to resist the temptation of using the little apples (option-shift-k) as bullet points in my presentations.... ;)

Probably your easiest solution would be to simply convert the Mac fonts to Windows versions. TrueType fonts can be used on both Windows and Mac. There is a shareware application that does just what you are looking for. It's called TTConvert. You can find it at your favorite Info-Mac mirror (for example,
http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Archive/font/util/tt-converter15.hqx)
or at http://www.shareware.com/.

However, I make no claims as to the legality of converting Apple fonts and putting them on other machines.

I got this info (and a whole lot more) at the comp.fonts homepage http://www.ora.com/homepages/comp.fonts/.

Andy

WWW Pages: http://www.coredcs.com/~aberkvam/

i am looking for windoze versions of the standard apple macintosh truetype fonts (geneva, chicago, new yorkk, monaco, etc...).

TTConverter 1.3 converts TrueType fonts mac <-> win. It should be available from info-mac archives.

Matti Haveri
http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/

Dear Classic Mac Enthusiasts--

I am relatively new to Mac ownership coming as I do from the PC world, although I have been co-opted for Mac user support as an IT professional. Since our Power Macs rarely have anything go wrong with them and they are locked down with FileGuard anyway, I decided to buy a Mac for home use so I could fiddle with it and learn more about the platform. So, I bought a Mac IIsi and it worked fine for about a week, then it started having boot-up problems, such as the "reappearing Mac". For me the fun started right away! ;-)

The boot-up problems have been sporadic. When I boot from a disk, SCSIProbe encounters a "bus error" and I have to boot with extensions off. I open SCSIProbe after boot-up and it sees the hard drive, but it cannot mount it. I temporarily swapped out the SCSI ribbon cable, but that did not help. I sometimes still get the disk icon with the blinking "?" and restarts are futile, only a cold boot will clear the problem. I don't believe stiction is the problem since the disk works fine otherwise and booting from a disk after spin up doesn't help.

However, after it boots properly, it invariably displays the previously open folders on my hard drive (named "Mac IIsi") as empty windows and then prompts me with "Please insert disk Mac IIsi". Which is a pretty novel idea! After I hit cancel, though, it then fills the windows with their correct contents. Thus, the message appears to be completely bogus.

I have never had this situation happen with a Mac before. Any ideas on what may be the problem and how I get rid of this annoying message? I am concerned that the bus on the mainboard may be about to go which would turn my new purchase into an expensive paperweight. Note: I was running System 7.0.1, but recently upgraded to System 7.6.

I love troubleshooting computers (why do you think I love PCs!), but I have run out of ideas. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

--Scott

Amitai Schlair writes:

NetBSD http://www.netbsd.org and OpenBSD http://www.openbsd.org are free variants of the "real" Berkeley Software Distribution UNIX.

There's also MacMiNT. It runs as a MacOS application, so you don't have to dedicate a hard drive to it. There used to be a good web page for it at colorado.edu, but it's gone now. The "official" archive is at:

ftp://suniams1.statistik.tu-muenchen.de/incoming/MacMiNT/release/MacMiNT_18May94.sit.bin

Building it is kind of a pain in the rear, but it works on anything from Mac Plus on up with System 7. The more RAM, the better (of course). It *is* possible to develop MacOS applications under MacMiNT, if you want to jump through a couple of hoops. There's an example application that uses gcc to compile a Tetris game, and it works.

There's an "altmacos" mailing list, but it's pretty dead right now.

Larry.Kollar

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards
http://www.zws.com/
wrote:

Apple makes the software "freely" available. This means that they do not charge for it. They still hold the copyright(s)/patent rights &c. and your usage of it is subject to the terms of the original license unless you negotiate with Apple and obtain written permission to use or distribute the product(s) in a particular way.

I'm not disputing that Apple probably does hold copyright on its software (with the protection that brings), but I'm not sure that the license agreement has any validity outside certain states in the USA - not knowing much about law in that part of the world, I can't really comment.

You might (probably will) get away with it, because Apple has other things to worry about than chasing license violations of ten-year-old (plus) software, but legally you are in the wrong.

AFAIK, no software license agreement has ever been tested in a UK court, and I have heard the opinion (from the Law Society in the UK) that these software licenses don't have any validity in this country.

Rowland.

Yeah, dead Macs at flea markets are a good source. Use the supply, throw away the rest! OK, don't throw away the rest. :-)

Also, watch the comp.sys.mac.wanted Newsgroup for parts.

does anyone know a source for plus power supplies?

Jon Gaines

Hey People,

I'm looking for PrintShop from Broderbund for a MacPlus. I called their support line and they said that it's not available. I find this hard to believe because I used PrintShop on an Apple IIe. Was there ever PrintShop for the MacPlus or do they just not make it any more? If it exists, where can I get a copy? If not is there a substitute out there and where can I get a copy of that?

Jeremy

My daughter is running an LC 4/40 with System 7.0.1 and cannot get Virtual memory. It just does not show on the Control Panel. Any ideas?

Kevin Jordan

Hello,

If you go to any auto parts store that also sells tools you should have *no trouble* getting a Torx T-15 screwdriver. It is the same size that many late model automobiles use for the headlamp adjustment screws. In particular SK tools makes a nice one with a blade about 6" long which easily reaches the two deep recessed T-15's in the handle of your MACs.

Ken

Home Page: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kennethb

Hello to the group and help!

Please help this refugee from a PC get his new/old MAC up onto the internet. The hardware/software combination: MAC SE30 8 meg RAM MacOS 7.1 68030 processor Mac&Fax 14.4 modem FreePPP/MacTCP Fetch Telnet MacWEB

After configuration, I connect to UMass' server via FreePPP and all appears normal. the "globe" icon spins merrily (indicating a good connection?) and then I try to launch Fetch, Telnet, or MacWEB. In so many words the error message says the address I am seeking cannot be found for lack of a 'domain name server'. Several consultants at the UMass Software Support office have tried to reinstall (and have tried another PPP software MacPPP, I think) Free PPP and gotten the same results. I get the same results whether I launch FreePPP first and then try the client software OR if I launch the software and let if find and call-up FreePPP.

I've been told I'll be able to run Netscape on this machine. I'm not sure if I want to given the small (80 meg HD) but does anyone have any firsthand knowledge of whether I would be able to or not?

Ken

Home Page: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kennethb

Hi all,

I have a few questions and some good (for the maccomunity) news. First the questions:
Is it possible to hook a serial or appletalk printer (HP deskwriter) to a Mac and use it from an ethernet networked PC running either Win95 or WinNT?

Is it possible to hook a modem to a Mac use it for Internet from an ethernet networked PC (i.e. using the Mac as a router)? Which software is needed?

Now the news, for my above questions it can look strange to use a Mac as a server to PCs running such powerful operating systems. In fact I am asking because I recently got a cheap DAT autoloader that could be nicely used form either Mac or UN*X machines; I have tried to use it with (withhold name) software backup running on Win95. It does not support autoloaders. WinNT backup does not support autoloaders either (I would need to spend a few hundred $ on software)... so I decided to install retrospect on my Mac and run retrospect remote on the PC. Once again Mac showed as the most reliable answer to common problems, as I am using my Mac to give such basic services to my PC I thought about using it as a printer server and router. Isn't it amazing what an old Mac can do for you?

Regards
Luis

I have a MacTV which looks cool (it's black), but with it's 68030 CPU and 8 MEG RAM maximum capacity is sadly limited these days.

Not necessarily. I use my LCII with only 4 megs, with a 28.8 modem to look at the web, get mail, read newsgroups, and download/alter/display pictures. It's a little slow but surely gets there, and is even pretty stable. Is this the "MacTV" I'm thinking of, in a black cabinet with a 14" monitor, all one piece? When I worked in the university computer store, we had a couple MacTV's for awhile and I coveted them, and I seem to remember they were like LC475's or LC-something-or-others on the inside, and that those whatever-they-were's were more "powerful" than my LCII.

If I pull all unnecessary parts of the system and go with Eudora Lite will it run? Can I run a primitive Netscape? I don't want to be isolated on the road.

I've been running Eudora Light on a PowerBook 100, which only has a 68000 and 4 megs, and CAN'T use virtual memory or RAM Doubler. With 8 megs you probably don't have to even minimize your system that much, unless it's been all clogged up with add-on goofy stuff or far-out extensions for stuff you won't be using on the road. Maybe a good idea to reinstall the system from scratch, even to reformat the drive, just to start clean, if others have been using it, and who-knows-what's been going on (not rebuilding the desktop frequently, fragmented beyond belief, corrupted minor system stuff).

What system, and how big is the system file? I don't know. My daughter has the machine in addition to her (ugh) Pentium PC, and I must corral her and get it back to find out. I could always get a modem for it.

I'm guessing 7.1, because I think that was current around that time. I'd stick with it, rather than go to 7.5 as many people might recommend - leaves more memory for Netscape or whoever to play with.

Somewhere there is an old disk from my ISP with Eudora Lite and Netscape 1.1. I would need an appropriate MacTCP and PPP. They probably are stored away also. Should I bother?

Maybe, for Eudora and TCP. But you can probably run Netscape 2.0 happily, and there are newer better PPP's now than there would have been then. I've been using FreePPP 2.5v2, available online from a company called "Rockstar," on everything that'll take it - pretty slick. It can automatically identify your modem and send it the correct init string, adds a handy connect/disconnect menu to your menu bar, and seems pretty reliable.

Could a 68030 processor with 8 Meg RAM and a 160 Meg HD handle internet communications these days?

I'd say yes, definitely, unless you're really really obsessed with speed or want to spend lots of time playing online games or something. Besides, then you'll also have a nice little TV with you!

I'm going on the road with a travel trailer. I would like a Mac to take along,
but the MacTV is all I have that could go too.

This sounds absolutely great! I love the idea of traveling with my Mac, and will be doing so myself as soon as possible. Where are you going? What kind of trailer? Are you planning to just power it when your trailer is plugged-in, or on-the-go with an inverter? Have a great time.

- David

Heard you might be able to help. Upgraded Sys from 6.0.4 to 7.0 and all programs work fine except for Microsoft Excel 1.5. Try to open it and get error -601. Do I need to upgrade excel 1.5 to work with Sys 7.0?

GlennKirk