Table of Contents for this issue:
SE SuperDrive?
CD Driver for System 6!
Can't Boot a Plus from 120MB Maxtor
To help a newbie..
Black and White Screen Savers
Re: Plus Boot from Zip
HD ToolKit and Soft SCSI Addresses
Re: The Mysterious Disappearing SE HD
Classic IIs, SE/30s, Performa 200s and Color
Re: Plus Booting Issue
Re: MacroMaker and System 7
Plus and Bad Power Supply
Multiple System Folders
Netscape Navigator Download Site
Re: PMMU Upgrade for Mac II
Sixes and Sevens on the Same Computer
Apple Basic Color Monitor?
Looking for a 128K Mac
Home Automation using a Mac Plus!
Re: The Rescuer's Conundrum
Re: Classic II PRAM Battery
Re: Great Idea + SE and Non-Readable HD
Re: LC/HP DeskWriter PostScript Compatible
Re: The Mysterious Disappearing SE HD
Re: The Rescuer's Conundrum
Re: Virus????
Choose Your System: 6, 7, or both
Re: Plus as Dedicated Fax

HI,

Just writing to say that I just picked up a MAC SE Superdrive
- All I got was the machine, keyboard and mouse. Nothing else!

The machine inside has:
1 Rocket Drive - 40 Meg
2 Superdrives on the front
4 meg RAM

The system software is version 6.0.7

From my reading on the net, it would appear that an SE
was 1 hard drive and 1 superdrive or 2 superdrives.

Any comments?

I would like to know what files I am supposed to have
that makes up a complete 6.0.7 system.

A couple of observations are:

1. I do not have any software that can recognise an IBM disk
in the superdrive. Was this in the standard system?

2. I can see 'Multifinder' grayed out but cannot select it.
Other than that, I seem to be in good shape,so I'm just taking
my time before I rush in - I haven't even performed a rebuild!

Steve

A few weeks ago, I answered a post on one of the Usenet comp.sys.mac groups
regarding CD software that would run under system 6. I knew that most all
versions, if not all, of Apple's CD-ROM sw version 5.x required system 7, so I
did a search on Filez looking for versions less than 5.x. And I found one! I
referred it to the poster and he wrote back to say it worked just fine with
his SE and his Apple CD150e, and I believe 6.0.7.

I don't have the URL anymore, unfortunately, but the name of the file is:

cd-rom-setup-404.hqx

You can search on this at http://www.filez.com under the Macintosh software.
Some of you enterprising types who keep old Mac sw on their web sites just may
want to include this under "old software." I'd also be anxious to see if
anyone tries it and gets it to work with an Apple 300 or 600 seried CD-ROM
drive.

BTW I have a copy if it is no longer avaialble on the ftp site where I got it,
so I can shoot a copy on disk to someone *who will post it on their web site*.
I can try to e-mail the .hqx file as an attachment but I offer no guarantees
of success.

Regards,
Robert Eye

I have been unable to boot my MacPlus from my external 120 mb
Maxtor. I have tried everything. THe drive is just not recognized
by the SCSI program.

The drive is easily recognizable on a SCSI chain with my 7100,
and it actually is recognizable on a chain to the Plus, as long as
the plus is booted by another disk. However, It is not even
recognized when it is not on a chain.

I don't understand what is happening. I have used a terminator, also,
and that does not seem to help. Thanks for any help.

Mike Abrams

All,

I don't subscribe to the list (yet), so please reply via
e-mail to me at pauls.

I have just started to take a liking to the Mac, and I'm
looking for a cheap (or free!) old working Macintosh. Can anybody here
help me? I've used an IBM / Windows all my life, and whille I have
used a Mac, I am unfamilier with it's structur, ect... Thank you.

Paul Smith.

I have a small collection of screensaver apps that work on black and white
Macs at:

http://www.magpage.com/~bschnick/files_available/BandWScreenSavers.hqx

It's around 147 KB in size.

BS
http://ns1.inet.net/~bschnick

I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to boot my Mac Plus from an Iomega Zip
drive.

I Have a Zip attached to my 4 meg Plus. I use it as i would any other HD.
whenever it fails to boot, it's because I have forgotten to set the
termination to "on". Otherwise, it functions just like any other external
HD.

Rick

I am not familiar with HD ToolKit, but here's a question: does it assign
a SCSI ID address in *software* when it formats a drive? If so, this could
be in conflict with another drive even if the physical jumpers on the
Quantum are set correctly. JG

I then brought out the big gun, HD ToolKit 2.0, and managed to format it.
I managed to install a System folder on it, but am unable to boot off of
this drive. Instead, the internal hard drive boots; if I bypass the
internal drive (Command-Shift-Control-Delete) I get the question mark.
I have tried both SCSI ID's #1 and #6, to try playing with the priority.
The jumpers are right, and the SCSI chain is terminated properly
(no internal terminating resistors on the Quantum)

Jon Gaines

Hi Mark,

Is the problem simply "sticktion?" I've often heard about drives that
get old and sticky, and they need a little encouragement to start spinning
or for the head assembly to start moving freely (I forget which, maybe it's
both!). In an external drive, you just pick it up an snap your wrist to get
it to break free. With an SE, I guess you need to do the Twist. Good luck.

Jon Gaines

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:28:45 -0500
From: mark akins
To: Classic Posts
Subject: The Mysterious Disappearing SE HD?

I have a Mac SE with the Superdrive/Hard Drive configuration and 4
megs. When I first got it, it had an Apple 20 meg hard drive it in which
I couldn't get to work on this machine or on my Power Mac. I removed it
and put it a 40-meg drive (Quantum, I beleive, but it did not fit right
into the rack, so I replaced it with an Apple 40 meg drive (another
Quantum).

My problem is that when the SE has been off for awhile, I will turn
it on and the SE cannot see the hard drive. If I turn it off and then
turn it back on, it can now see the hard drive. I have reformatted this
drive using FWB toolkit and put a new system folder on it. It still has
this same problem. If I do a restart, it won't work. It is only when I
power it down and then power it back up does the hard drive show up. The
floppy drive works fine. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks.
Mark Akins

To run a colour monitor off yer classic II or SE/30,or performa 200,
one needs a card such as the RasterOps SE/30 card..I believe that card
will only allow mac os 7.1 or earlier....

as far as swapping the CPT from a colour classic to a classic II,
you can't do it...besides different circuits,the CPT is too big fer the
classic II case...

I'm running a SE/30 with a 500 SEAGATE Internal HD...32mb of ram
(96mb with ram doubler 2) mac os 7.5.5, with a external apple 2x cd player
and apple speakers...and I'm running netscape 2.0, and microSwine explorer
2.1 without a problem...and I'm running a 33.6 Modem,upgrading from a
zoom 14.4 which ran fantastic..but I don't need anylonger..

no doubt about,the SE/30 is the almighty of the vintage macs...

Nick

On 8/2/97 3:37 PM, Jag wrote:

I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to boot my Mac Plus from an Iomega Zip
drive. The Zip drive is significantly more quiet than the ancient "zero
footprint" CMS drive now attached to the Plus. I know that there are some
flaky quirks with the SCSI implementation in the Plus, but there's gotta be
a way to make this work.

As far as I know, (and I've tried just about everything) The Plus won't
boot from a Zip.

JAG

The best place to view the many facets of this argument, is in the
Classic Macs Archives (mentioned at top of digest).

Personally, I got my Zip Drive working on my parent's Plus on the
first try.

There are many SCSI glitches if you use the latest drivers, but the
driver that the original Zip Drives shipped with (v.4.2 or somesuch)
worked quite nicely for me. The big problem with booting from a Zip
disk is getting any other SCSI peripherals to load as well. I found
that the only reliable way to boot from a Zip was to unplug all other
SCSI devices, and turn SCSI termination ON on the back of the Zip
drive. Of course, any system software past 7.5.5 is not supposed to
work on a Plus, and you must have the system folder "blessed" on the
zip disk for the Plus to recognise it. As a point of note: I have
successfully booted a Plus off a Zip disk running System 7.1.2, on a
disk with Stacker=81 driver level compression. and Zip driver version
4.2.1. The Plus was running with 4Mb of memory, and is one of the
later "Platinum" Pluses (not the yellowy ones).

Once again, for anyone wanting more info on Zips and Mac+'s, please
read the archives before posting questions.

{Note to moderator: since this topic is one of the more popular ones,
would a one liner to this effect at the top of the digest be
acceptable?}

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: That sounds like a good idea, especially if this
Plus/Zip thing reaches epidemic proportion. If the fusilade of fuss stops,
though, I'll leave it alone. HOWEVER, this _is_ a subject that is
mentioned many, many times over in past digests.]

Andrew Ludgate
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/3817

On 8/2/97 3:57 PM, Tina wrote:

So, the question this time. My "new" fx arrived, and with it a new system
(7.5.3 r2). Now that seems to have ended a long and happy relationship with
the old MacroMaker. The computer simply freezes before it's even started
up. (Works fine on my Plus with system 7.0.1)

I really need that MacroMaker, so does anyone now if there's a new version
that can run with that system or if there's something similar?

Tina, you're in luck. System 7.5 and later came bundled with
AppleScript, a very powerful scripting program that can do much more than
MacroMaker ever could. And it doesn't do one thing that MM quite often
did for me... it doesn't crash! -I've never had an extension conflict
with AppleScript, unlike MacroMaker which wasn't compatible with a number
of big name programs. You will also find that MM's macro capabilities
are included in most Microsoft programs... most Claris programs now rely
on AppleScript, and are fully "Apple Scriptable" meaning you can record
and replay events just like with lil' ol' MacroMaker

Note: Apple stopped supporting MacroMaker with System 6.0.4. They
claimed that it hacked too many system dependant traps, and would require
a complete rewrite to be 100% stable on both later computers, and later
systems. Therefore, there was no macro program bundled with Apple's
software until 7.5 made its debut. Find out more about AppleScript by
doing a web search for this word. Looking for the keyword OSAX or osaxen
will also turn up some little surprises.

Andrew Ludgate
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/3817

Or otherwise stated: What to do when the cost of reviving a rescued
computer is as much as buying one of the same model?

To explain, I recently rescued a Mac+ (2.5/40) which was being thrown
out by my employer. When I got it, it would give intermittant Sad Mac
errors. No problem, I figure I can replace the RAM with some surplus
PC SIMMs. This fixes the Sad Macs, but after it heats up it dies with
an "Address Error" bomb. Some board switching points to the motherboard
(more specifically, the ROMs) as being the fault.

Checking around, I see that the most common price for a Mac+ system
board is $15 + shipping. As a last check, I call Intragate
, who has had good prices in the past, to find out
their price. It turns our that they won't even quote me a price for
the MB as they can get me an entire Mac+ system for $20.

This has really left me in a quandry as to what to do. I really don't
want to buy *another* one as I already have a working Mac Plus. Besides,
what would I then do with *this one*? I suppose I could keep it for
parts, but that seems a bit of a waste too.

Any suggestions? Anyone with a spare set of Mac+ ROMs?

Thanks in advance... <<<John>>>

Your prob is a bad power supply. Very common. You can get another used
Plus and take out its power supply and put it in the other Plus very
easily. It's worth it, you can use the other Plus for parts, ram,
floppy, MB. Power supplies were going for $200 as recently as 3 years
ago from dealers (I call them con artists.) Just buy the whole darn Plus
for $15 (heck just the 4 megs is going for $20 these days!).

JAG

A weird little oasis on the web. Download my Subgenius music, tons of
Mac shareware (icluding hard to find goodies for older Macs), Mac
instruction manuals, cool graphic art and other assorted waste of
bandwidth.

Http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/jagshouseone.html

William Voelker wrote:

Is it possible to have both System 6 & 7 installed on the same HD?
Or will I need to get an external and switch between the two? I have
a Classic 4/40...

I'd say that the easiest solution is boot off a System 6 floppy when you
want system 6 (Copy that system to a RamDisk) then eject the floppy for a
speed boost. Keep the System 7 folder on your HD. Alternatively you could
use Silverlining to create a partition on your HD for a System 6.xx boot
drive and use a system chooser init to go back and forth between 6 and 7 at
startup time. I've done that for years on a IIcx.

Ben Trumble

Rich McCord wrote:

Anyone know where I can find Netscape Navigator version 2.02 (or something
close to that)? I'm currently using v. 3.0 and it's too slow and
RAM-hungry for my '030 Performa! I've already tried Netscape's download
page--no luck . . .

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Rick, Netscape no longer lists 2.02 on their WWW
download page. To find it, you'll have to root around on their ftp server,
ftp://ftp.netscape.com. Look carefully--it's there.]

Check http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/software.html There are lownload links
for Netscape 1.1 and for 2.0.2, as well as the later version 3.0.2. There
is also a link to: http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/Shareware.html
which is a *great* source for software for "older" Macs.

HTH.....

David
http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/

I've got a Mac II which I'm trying to upgrade so that it will read more
than 8Mb of RAM. I've heard that a certain "PMMU" chip will take care
of this, so I asked some salesman guy which chip I needed and he sent me
part no. xc68851rc16a. It didn't work. Then I read somewhere that the
part no. I needed was mc68851rc16a. Can anyone clear this up? Now I
hear that you *also* need PAL designated RAM chips.

That certainly sounds like the right part.

Did you also install the MODE32 extension? You need it to access 32-bit mode
and really use any memory above 8MB.

I'm curious... how did you test it to determine that it didn't work.
You should have been able to look at the Memory control panel and now
get an option for virtual memory.

As for the memory chips... The II and IIx were designed before the standards
for SIMMS above 1MB were finalized. Apple designed these systems using an
earlier version of the standard. Therefore, the 4MB (and larger) SIMMs for a
II or IIx have an extra chip on them called a PAL.

The last price I saw for used ones was $20 a piece from Timco Computers
(lance).

Can someone tell me EXACTLY what I need and not assume that I know
exactly what you're talking about with all the jargon? Also, would it
be easier to just purchase a IIx logic board instead of trying to update
the original logic board? If so, what "exactly" is involved with doing
that -- other than the obvious, physical installation?

This was the route I took with my II, replacing the motherboard with a IIx.
Its a drop-in replacement, just a couple of screws and some clips.

Since my II had neither the PMMU or the Superdrive upgrades, I thought this
was a better deal. It has the advantage of taking you to a 68030 so you get
a little more software compatability as well as the equivalent of a PMMU
upgrade and a Superdrive upgrade.

My cost was $15 from Intragate.

FYI, a IIfx motherboard is also a drop-in replacement. The IIfx, however,
uses very odd 68-pin SIMMs which were only used in one other Apple product.
The IIfx, however, gives you all the advantages of the IIx and is a *lot*
faster.

<<<John>>>

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 11:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Voelker
To: Classic Posts
Subject: Multiple System Folders?

Is it possible to have both System 6 & 7 installed on the same HD?
Or will I need to get an external and switch between the two? I have a
Classic 4/40, so I do have 6.0.3 in ROM but it's not good for much besides
letting some old games run that die unter 7 (7.0*). I would like to be
able to use various screen savers, etc. under 6---and get a small speed
boost besides when I don't need to have more than one program running.

Thank you.
William

William J. Voelker

Hey there,

There's a few options if you want to switch back and forth between the two
systems...the first one, like you said, is to get an external drive and
set that up as another system drive. Another option is to partition your
internal, and put a system on each partition. Of course, this requires
erasing your drive, so if you have too much stuff on your drive, or if
it's too big, it might be too much of a hassle.

Other options: there's a utility called System Picker by Kevin Aitken,
which is freeware. All ya gotta do is click on the folder you want to
start from.

If you only want to use System six every once in a while, make up a
system 6 floppy. All you need to boot is the system and the finder, and
they'll fit nicely on a floppy.

As far as just having a couple of system folders on your drive; you can
play games with your system and finder files, and trick your mac into
which folder is actually the "blessed" folder, but it's a method thats
sure to end up in either confusion or tears - probably both. :)

A warning - it's not entirely too bad of an idea to use disk first aid
when switching systems. There've been "mystery reports" of bugs when
switching in between systems. Better safe than sorry.

Best of luck!

Mark Wooldrage

I'm hoping someone out there can give me some pointers
on this one. The monitor that came with my venerable
LCIII suddently one day wouldn't start up. The little
green light wouldn't come on or anything. Now, my question
is this: Could it be the switch, or is it just dead,dead,
dead? A local computer repair guy said if the light
didn't come on it wasn't worth fixing. Is he right? Or
should I dismantle it or trade it in on a rebuilt? Any
and all advise welcome on the list or by e-mail.
Thanks people!

Wanda

I have always wanted a working 128 K Mac.

I'm a student, so my resources are limited. I'd be interested in knowing if
any of the subscribers to this list are looking for a good home for their
old Mac.

I'd be willing to pay something for it (plus shipping, etc.) but am mostly
interested in hearing from people not looking to make a huge profit on
selling their old Mac.

Thanks.
Matt Carlin

A forward from MacWay on how you can take a Mac Plus and use it for home
automation!!

Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 20:13:23 -0400
From: EvangeList
To: Classic Posts
Subject: PR - Mac Home Automation

This announcement is from:

michael

"XTension", the serious automation and security software, for the Mac has
just been upgraded to version 1.7 with more features than ever.

Featured in the July issue of MacAddict, an insanely great article about
getting started in home automation with your Mac !

Imagine even an old MacPlus working round the clock to secure and control
your home !

Home automation is cheaper and easier than ever. The things you need are
available from your local Radio Shack as well as Home Depot and many
others.

With the new inexpensive X-10 interfaces, and even an old MacPlus, you
can create a great home system with schedules, remote macros, motion
sensors, lighting, home theater, security, and more.

"XTension" works with hundreds of simple plug-in products already
available from catalogs and from your local Radio Shack. From light
dimmers to laser beams and pet feeders, you'll love the things that your
Mac can do with "XTension", and you'll love its features. "XTension" is
'Mac-First / Mac-Only', fully graphic and compliant with the MacOS, Open
Transport, and AppleScript, allowing you to incorporate all of your Mac
tools, appliances and 'toys' into your home automation system.

"XTension" is written in 'C' and was carefully designed to be fast and
lean on any Mac from 'the Plus' and after, and any MacOS 7.1 or later. (
OS 8 ? Of course )

Look deep into the scripting verbs and you'll see that not only is
"XTension" fun and easy to use, but it is also a very powerful tool.

This system will save you money and make you smile !

"XTension" version 1.7 has just been released for all supported
interfaces. The version for the CP290 has been upgraded and is now a
supported product as "XTension Lite".

"XTension" is the only commercial application available for the Macintosh
which supports the X-10 CM11A (as well as other X-10 interfaces).

More info, distributor links, and good home automation links can be found
on our website http://www.shed.com/

Or call 407-349-5960
Sand Hill Engineering Inc.
Box 517
Geneva, Florida 32732

--bj

In reply to: John Ruschmeyer Subject: The Rescuer's Conundrum?

I'd say that what you have to do is to give the thing the best shot you
can to fix it. If that fails, then keep it for parts.

By the intermittent nature of your problem, I'd say you have a bad
contact somewere. First, reseat all the socketed ICs on the motherboard:
just push them firmly in their sockets. Then look at the memory SIMMs:
ensure that the contacts are clean, that there are no debris which could
hinder good electrical contact, and reseat them. Then you could check
all the other sockets/plugs in the computer: un-mate and mate them a few
times.

If you have some more SIMMs around, you could try in a new set: maybe
one of them is defective.

If you feel zealous, you could check the solder connections wherever
sockets are for cold/cracked solder joints.

Beyond that, I'd say it's pretty useless trying to go much further.
Keep the thing for parts.

Good luck!
Pierre Olivier

Does anyone know where the p-ram backup battery is located within a Classic
II? A distant friend described dead-batt symptoms over the phone, and I'm
wondering if I can coach her through the replacement, or if it's internal
and the case has to be unmantled to get at it. Thanks.

David Buchner

David,

Try this URL for just about all the information you might need.

http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh/

Regards,
Milt Johnson

work, but when I started it a computer message said the HD was unreadable
and asked if I wanted to eject or initialize it. It would do neither. It
continuously looped with the message and failures.

I tried starting from a disk tools disk and it started but the same message
about the HD came up and I was in a loop when choosing the given options. I
could not get by the message. When an external drive is attached, the same
loop but now the external is included as not being readable.

I removed the internal drive and disconnected the external. The same
message about the HD's not being readable and the loop with the message.
Remember the HD has been removed and the external dis attached.

If you haven't already, I would zap the PRAM and make sure it hasn't gone
goofy. Did you change the drive (or did it have an external HD in its
earlier life?) Failing that, it sounds like the problem is the disk
controller circuitry. Unfortunately, I can't help you beyond that :-P
Maybe if you can get hold of a copy of Dead Mac Scrolls or check out some
repair Web sites ...

sdropkin

Hello to the list from a new old-Mac owner. I just purchased an LC/HP Desk
Writer combo. I was wondering if I can run/print post script on it. If so
what do I need ? directions/pointers to info sources greatly appreciated.

The DeskWriter uses the QuickDraw imaging model, so you will have to
emulate PostScript. You can use InfoWave's (formerly GDT's) StyleScript
or Birmy's PowerRIP; both products are about $90-100 street price. I have
no experience with StyleScript, but have used PowerRIP and have to say
that, while it provides excellent output, it has one of the most arcane
interfaces I've run into in about ten years -- it's not even up to
Windows 3.1 standards (!) You might also want to check to see if your
particular model DeskWriter is covered with these products ... if your DW
is old enough, neither may work.

sdropkin

My problem is that when the SE has been off for awhile, I will turn
it on and the SE cannot see the hard drive. If I turn it off and then
turn it back on, it can now see the hard drive. I have reformatted this
drive using FWB toolkit and put a new system folder on it. It still has
this same problem. If I do a restart, it won't work. It is only when I
power it down and then power it back up does the hard drive show up. The
floppy drive works fine. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

Might be "stiction" -- some of the old 40 MB drives were prone to that,
though I didn't think the Quantums (or the Apple-labeled Quantums) were
as bad as the Sonys in that regard. If the drive never "drops off" during
use, and especially if you don't hear the drive humming to life as you
start up the Mac (put your ear up close to the floppy opening), I'd
suspect stiction. There is no cure for it other than the physical trash
can.

sdropkin

an "Address Error" bomb. Some board switching points to the motherboard
(more specifically, the ROMs) as being the fault.

Checking around, I see that the most common price for a Mac+ system
board is $15 + shipping. As a last check, I call Intragate,
who has had good prices in the past, to find out
their price. It turns our that they won't even quote me a price for
the MB as they can get me an entire Mac+ system for $20.

This has really left me in a quandry as to what to do. I really don't
want to buy *another* one as I already have a working Mac Plus. Besides,
what would I then do with *this one*? I suppose I could keep it for
parts, but that seems a bit of a waste too.

<snip>

P.S. Anybody also know of a source for a LaserWriter Plus logic board, too?

$20 isn't exactly a pile of money if it makes your Mac functional again.
And, once it's working, it's likely that, at some point down the road,
you'll need another part (power supply, floppy drive, etc.). I'd go for
it. If all else fails, sell the parts you don't want for a few bucks plus
shipping and provide the service for others that you cannot find
yourself.

As for LW+ logic boards, I assume you've checked out the usual suspects
(Sun Remarketing, Pre-Owned Electronics, etc.) You might want to try
MacResQ (they're on the Web) and (though I haven't dealt with him at all)
there's a guy named Brian Hall who posts for-sale items on Usenet; he's
been around for a while so I would guess he's not a rip-off artist.

sdropkin

A lot of my files and programs suddenly have damaged resource forks and
nothing works properly. Disinfectant 3.6 says that the resource forks are
damaged or in an unknown format. Macafee Virusscan 1.0.1 tells me the same
thing.

For what it's worth, Disinfectant 3.6 and MacAfee Virusscan 1.0 are
essentially the same product -- John Norstad sold the rights to
Disinfectant to MacAfee.

The computer is a Mac IIfx running system 7.5.3 and all the trouble seemed
to have started when attaching a new external harddrive and a screen from
an AV something, -possibly a Quadra.

I find it hard to belive that the problems should originate from those, but
it seems to be spreading, so hopefully someone can give me an explanation?

It could be that in adding the monitor to your system you added some
software that is incompatible with everything else -- look for
AppleVision extensions/control panels (or a Quadra AV extension) or
something like that in your System Folder and make sure they're not
loading. Your IIfx should not require any extensions or control panels
for the monitor to work properly.

It is also somewhere between possible and likely that the new hard disk
has a different hard disk driver (either another brand or a different
version of Apple's HD SC Setup) which is causing some problems. You don't
say whether the files/programs which are damaged are on the new drive;
that might tell you something. I would suggest finding _one_ hard disk
driver which will work and making sure it's up to date for System 7.5.3
(the vendor can tell you that).

I'm also experiencing that some of the OK buttons are totally black. I have
tried installing a new system but it didn't help much, seems to be
especially the control panels and extensions that are damaged.

I hate to sound like a broken record (this is about the third time I've
issued this advice), but I would zap the PRAM if you haven't already.
This will force a check of available hardware and may fix some (or all)
of the problems. And, if you haven't already, I would do a clean install
of the System software -- don't just copy over your old System Folder.
Rename your System Folder, trash the System and Finder icons, and install
(actually, with 7.5.3, you can do a clean install by clicking
Shift-Command-K at the first installation screen; you'll get a (hidden)
dialog box with just that option).

Good luck!
sdropkin

William Voelker wrote:

Is it possible to have both System 6 & 7 installed on the same
HD?

Yes, you can do this using a freeware utility called "System Picker 1.0".
I found it somewhere in the www.apple.com support area. If you can't find
it, I'd be happy to E-mail it to you. It's only 36K.

I use this program on my Mac SE. The only drawback is that when you
switch from System 6 to System 7, System 7 insists on rebuilding the desk
top file, which is a pain.

John Crooks

I'd like to set up a Mac Plus as a dedicated fax machine is there any
software available on disk that would answer fax calls coming in and
saving the messages on disk? Second choice would be an SE system; I was
trying to avoid an ever-spinning harddrive...
Any thoughts?

Jack

If you want to run faxes off a floppy that is impractical. Often a single
fax will take up more space than a floppy has to offer.

I use my Mac Plus as a fax unit. I have one of those GlobalFax Bronze II
modems that were bundled with Performas some time ago. The modems are an
almost useless 2400 baud- good only for chat and e-mail- but the fax
portion is 9600 baud which is the fastest most fax machines support.

The problem with using these modems on a plus is they get their power
from the ADB port, not found on the poor old Plus. So I made a special
keyboard cable that tapped the +5 volt power from the Plus keyboard cable
to a ADB connector (sold as a S-video connector at Radio Shack.)

Anyway, the fax software bundled with the Performa will work with the
Plus, but the hot ticket is to use the fax software bundled with the
Teleport Platinum. This software is slick as can be. If you read a review
on Global Village modems, the reviewer invariably raves about how nice
the fax software is. If you install this latest fax software on a machine
equipped with a Teleport Bronze, the Teleport control panel even
correctly identifies the Bronze!

Kudos to Global Village to continue supporting dinosaur equipment so
well. It gives me some confidence that GV will continue to support
products I buy today some years down the road. It also results in more
sales for GV because I was so impressed with the GV Bronze and its
software, that I bought a GV Platinum for my 8500.

mike_friese