Table of Contents for this issue:
Re: Burning CD's
Re: LetterPerfect (wuz Antique Software)
Re: Antique Software
Re: Apple Font
Re: Antique Software
Re: Apple Font
Re: Apple Font
Re: Apple Font
Re: Apple Font
Ballade, Midi Melody Maker
Lisa Video Out!
Re: Antique Software
Re: Apple Font
Mouse Conversion for Mac Plus
Re: Burning CD's
Re: Apple Font
Re: Network Issues, Old to New

In a message dated 1/2/01 9:42:20 PM, Simon Storey writes:

I have a 2x writer (Sony mech. in a ProWrite box) I've had from new a
couple of years ago - it worked fine with the Quadra 950 I was running
then, and I tried it at least once on an SE30 - fine too - I think - this
would have been with v3.5.5 of Toast, which came with the writer.

Toast 3.5.5 is upgradable to Toast 3.5.7, and that later version of Toast
supports just about everything except EIDE drives.

At 8:27 PM -0800 01/02/2001, alan chilton wrote via Classic Posts :

Recently got a deal on a bunch of older mac software
(20 some applications for 5 bucks) and in the box was
a program called Letterperfect. The program was
produced by wordperfect and the disks have a 1992
copyright date on teh label. It is version 2.1 The
letterperfect set is missing disk at least the program
1 disk (it has the installer, disk 2 and 3) so...

1) What was this program used for?

2) Where do I find disk 1.

Have been doing some web mining and can't really come
up with anything that makes alot of sense on this
program.

"What do you want for nothing? . . . Rrrrrrrubber biscuit?"
[The Blues Brothers]

LetterPerfect was published by the WordPerfect Corp. back when it was
still in Utah (pre-Corel).

It was, or is, a basic (i.e., "light") word processor, designed to
perform most of the tasks that most people actually need done without
monopolizing a lot of hard drive space or RAM. One might compare it
with Nisus Compact, Write Now, and MacWrite Pro -- or, more recently,
with Scorpio and Mariner Write.

Unfortunately, although people claim they don't want bloatware, what
they seem to buy in practice is Microsoft Word, which nowadays
demands something like 50 to 100 MB hard drive space, 16+ MB of RAM,
and a 120 mHz (minimum) PowerMac.

I believe that David Pogue once wrote an interesting article on
"lean" word processors, such as those listed above, for either
MacUser or Macworld. All but the last two have fallen by the wayside.
These programs are still great for 68K Macs with 40 MB hard drives.

Cliff Crouch

a program called Letterperfect.

<snip>

1) What was this program used for?

As you might guess from the "~Perfect" name, this was a product of
WordPerfect Corp. It was designed to be "WordPerfect Lite."

2) Where do I find disk 1.

That is a very good question. I'd surf the Web for "LetterPerfect"
and hit some Web sites that sell used software. Maybe a WordPerfect
User Group could help ...

Help. Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material. I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer
users.

I checked a few free font sites and couldnt find anything obvious.

The font is called "Garamond" and, in Apple's use, it is a little
compressed (that is, perhaps 80% of its customary width). Since
Garamond is almost undoubtedly a trademarked or copyrighted name, you
might have better luck searching for font names that "suggest" the
protected name. Look for fonts with names like "Garamount" or
"Gareth" or "Goramont" or somesuch. There must be something close out
there... Then, if it doesn't come in a "compressed width" format,
you'd need a Windows software package that could compress the type
(PageMaker could, I'm not sure about any others though they must
exist, too). Good luck!

LetterPerfect is a scaled down version of WordPerfect. Word processing
package.

You may have to find a whole set from a place like eBay. Posting a message
here is a good start. Maybe someone here can supply you with the disk you
are missing. Sorry I cannot as I don't have that application.

Thanks!
G.
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From: alan chilton
a program called Letterperfect. The program was
produced by wordperfect and the disks have a 1992
copyright date on teh label. It is version 2.1 The
letterperfect set is missing disk at least the program
1 disk (it has the installer, disk 2 and 3) so...

1) What was this program used for?

2) Where do I find disk 1.

In response to "John Hayward"

Help. Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material. I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer
users.

You can't. It's copyrighted by Apple, and they don't let others use
it. Supposedly there are some similar fonts available, so check
around.

Sue Korlan
<http://www.pilgrimcross.org>

At 8:27 PM -0800 1/2/2001, "John Hayward" wrote:

Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material.

Well, I've never seen it available on the Internet, but it's probably
available out there somewhere. The font is called "Apple Garamond".
It is a slightly modified version of Garamond Condensed, created by
Bitstream for Apple. Garamond Condensed is available from Adobe.

I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer
users.

Because Adobe's version comes so close (just modify it a bit in Adobe
Illustrator or something), use the Windows version. Otherwise, you
need to use TTYConverter to convert a Mac TrueType version to work in
Windows. Note that there is also a Windows version of Apple Garamond.

I hope this helps.

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Vice President of Technology
GKNHS, Cal Poly Pomona | http://www.csupomona.edu/~goldenkey
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From: "John Hayward"
To: "Classic Posts"
Subject: Apple Font
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:32:57 -0000

Help. Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material. I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer
users.

I checked a few free font sites and couldnt find anything obvious.

John H

I guess you should search for Apple Garamond.

Andre Berger

Re: Apple Font

Hi. This is my 1st time posting to this list.

It's a customised version of Adobe Garamond.
They have been using it since the days of the Apple II, Mac, Mac Plus, etc.
It is mentioned in the back of manuals (for SE, Plus, etc.).
Look at the last page (inside back cover).
Also there, you will see a typo, or an intentional mistake! :)
"Macinsoth"

Sorry, I don't know where to obtain the font.
If you can 'find-a-friend' who works in Apple, you may be able to get it
e-mailed to you. It will most likely be a Mac font. But this doesn't stop
you using it in Windoze. It will be a bit (maybe a byte! ;) ) harder.

I wouldn't suggest using any old Garamond, as the original will look
perfect.

As I remember, a way to compare Apple's font, is to look closely at the "B"
& "D" letters - distinctive.

Good luck.

Joshua Hrouda
Joshua Hrouda Electronics
Interweb: jhe.cjb.net

Does anyone here do midi in OS 7.5 to 7.6?

Attn: moderator(s)
I've never initiated a post to this b4.
Is this how I do it ?

[Moderator's Note: Doing fine.]

Does anyone know what format the video out is, fro an Apple Lisa 2 ?
Anyone got any manuals, software or hardware for this ?
Anyone got any Lisas to sell?

Where can I buy/make(!) a SCSI card, to fit into a Lisa slot in my Lisa, to
allow me to use a 1Gb-10Gb SCSI HDD ??

BTW: I haven't even got my Lisa going!
It's video board seems to have died.
Even when I get that fixed, the software (Mac XL Works) has a major problem.
It crashes at excatly the same point everytime after boot up.
I'm unable to do anything, unless I can get a boot disk (3.5") and fix the
problem.

If I can get an external monitor working off the composite video out port,
of my Lisa 2, I can then use it, while the main video board is crook.

What format is the HDD formatted as when using Mac XL Works ?
HFS/MFS/_L_FS ?

What about when using the Lisa System 7/7 ?

Are the ROM(s) different in mine now that it has Mac XL Works on it ?

Or is the Lisa really a Lisa, not a Mac XL, and maybe that's why it crashes!
:) ?

So who's got the ROM images from all the different Lisas ?

Or am I asking the wrong group of people all these questions ??

Thanks for your time. I hope someone can help.

Joshua Hrouda
Joshua Hrouda Electronics
Interweb: jhe.cjb.net

Message text written by Classic Posts

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:32:45 -0800 (PST)
From: alan chilton
Subject: Antique Software
To: classic-post

Hi All

Recently got a deal on a bunch of older mac software
(20 some applications for 5 bucks) and in the box was
a program called Letterperfect. The program was
produced by wordperfect and the disks have a 1992
copyright date on teh label. It is version 2.1 The
letterperfect set is missing disk at least the program
1 disk (it has the installer, disk 2 and 3) so...

1) What was this program used for?

2) Where do I find disk 1.

Have been doing some web mining and can't really come
up with anything that makes alot of sense on this
program.

TIA
Alan

Hello Allan,

LetterPerfect is a scaled-down version WordPerfect that was targeted for
home use. I still use it regularly on my Classic/Color Classic Macs for
reports. If you are interested in installing it, I will e-mail you a
DiskCopy 4.2 image file of the missing Disk 1.

Kurt Alex

From: "John Hayward"
To: "Classic Posts"
Subject: Apple Font
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:32:57 -0000

Help. Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material. I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer
users.

I checked a few free font sites and couldnt find anything obvious.

The font is called Apple Garamond.

It was created by Adobe specially for Apple.
You might be able to find it somewhere, but only Apple is licensed to use
it, I think.

If you use regular Garamond, 80% width, it looks kinda like that, but not
really.
-dan

hello!
ive inherited a Mac Plus for free from a
friend that worked at a university. it boots
fine (after much info searching and fiddling)
and i just need a mouse for it. now i know they
are readily available but im trying to go with
what i have (ie. not spend money) which is a normal
ADB mouse. does anyone know what wires to
connect to convert this ADB mouse so its
usable on my Plus? i have the 9 pin serial
cable and a mouse. your help is appreciated.

thank you.
jef

(ps. sorry if its been convered but im new
around these parts.)

<snip>

I am presently running this CD writer with Toast 3.5.7 and Toast 4.1.1.

Support from these most current versions of Toast for this very old CD writer
is excellent ... never a coaster at 2X. And never a need to use 1X.

I replaced the Pinnacle with a Yamaha 8424S recently so the Pinnacle is
somewhat redundant (it couldn't do "packet write", so that meant Retrospect
couldn't use it anyway).

But, these versions of Toast may be PowerMacintosh only.

Certainly, I am using these versions of Toast on a G3/300 with
half-a-gigabyte of SDRAM.

If you can find a version of Toast which will run on your classic Mac and
will support your specific CD writer, then you will not be disappointed.

I've used the latest version of Toast and also the earlier version (3.X)
that was supplied with my Yamaha rewriter on a Quadra 840AV, with no
problems . Can't speak about trying to use it on anything earlier, though I
might try it if I have a moment - if I get any results I'll post them here.
Incidentally, every CD writer I've tried to use has been supported,
including ones the manufacturers describe as PC compatible only
Mike Holliday

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, johnhayward wrote asking about "the tall
Roman style font Apple uses for the case badging of its machines and
promotional material."

Many years ago, when Apple was receiving high praise for it's adverstising
acumen, I read somewhere that the typeface they used is a standard one - only
it's the narrow version. Off the top of my prematurely balding head, I think
it's good old Garamond Narrow. You might want to double check with
Apple.

Hi,

I wanted to thank everyone for the help with this issue. I found good
answers in my personal e-mail, as well as on the list. You people are
great!

The answers mainly landed in 2 areas, ethernet adapters for serial ports
and SCSI eithernet adapters. Also some other ideas, a Mac with both
ethernet and localtalk and run Apple's software bridge, and even terminal
connections between Macs.

I got lots of good web pages to visit, a couple I already had found. There
was lots of good reading there :-)

The individual responces are spread around between 4 Macs, so I figured its
best if I thank you all publicly. I certainly don't want to miss any of
you, I've gained lots of tips and tidbits. Oh, my 4 Macs are my Brainstorm
MacPlus (system 6.0.7, at 470k of RAM), my SE/30 with Micron internal
grayscale (currently 7.1), the Performa 6400 (running 8.0), and my new
indigo 350mhz iMac (system 9.0.4 - hogging down almost 29 meg of ram for
itself!) With any luck I will get them all speaking as soon as I get an
localtalk/ethernet adapter. I understand its slow, but I can just start
the transfers and go to bed.

This is mostly for my families personal items off the 6400, well thats what
I tell my wife anyway <g>. Hey, this is really for my archive of old Mac
software. I generally keep it backed up on my newest Macs hard drive.

I am curious (several small mentions about this area). What does system
6.0.7 think of showing on the desktop (and allowing access to the contents
of) a nice fat 7 gig HFS+ hard drive (iMac)? Perhaps I need to create a
disk image of a 120meg disk, mount that in the new Mac, them Appletalk to
that volume on the system 6 Plus? Gotta keep the archive safe though, and a
disk image on a disk image (an HFS+ volume) is kinda scary.

Thankyou!

Paul "neon" Gooch